Lemme just say if President Bernie Sanders had unilaterally imposed, by executive fiat, hundreds of billions of new taxes, personally browbeat executives about job cuts and investments and then fired the head of BLS, the Chamber of Commerce and the business orgs would not be sitting idly by.
one thing that keeps happening is Trump taking major steps which impose large, often asymmetric costs on American business, and American business doing fucking nothing in response
You make a good point. Hitler wasn’t the only NAZI. He had a lot of help.
They like fascism
I’m coming to the conclusion that they like fascism. What else is left?
I remember many smart people telling me that Trump falsifying economic data or trying to bully the fed chair would be “red lines” that investors would never abide by.
I’m sure that’s gonna happen any day now.
Maybe if Bernie was as FUCKING SCARY as Trump!! Literally made people void their bowels rather than oppose him. Before Trumpedocoddler, someone like LBJ.
The complicity of business and inherent corporatism in fascism is often overlooked.
Look, all that matters is that they can freely say slurs and replace employees with AI — long term viability be damned!
A lot of these assholes have their foot on the gas - helping Trump drive the economy off a cliff. It’s like a suicide pact. It makes no sense at all.
We’re seeing the abject cowardice of the heads of these companies and institutions. Perhaps CEO and university head searches should include selecting for courage and integrity.
“Business Leaders” = feckless lapdogs. All in on supporting this GOP Shitocracy - run by rapey, grifting, fascists.
Trump has, after all, effectively imposed a Federal sales tax whose rate isn't really predictable. No deliberative body representing "the people" approved whatever is happening.
If you're an originalist, you see parallels and are mad. If you're Grover Norquist-aligned, you're supposed to be mad.
If Bernie Sanders did this, the Chamber of Commerce would have a massive outbreak of spastic colon.
Bernie wasn't an aspiring fascist dictator (and if he had tried he would have been checked by Dem elites in Congress and the judiciary).
This isn't even the proverbial basketball-playing dog anymore. The court is gone. We're not being lined up against the wall as part of a game.
Complacency loses battles.
If this were halftime of a football game, the 1% would be leading us 99%ers by a score of 42 to nuthin.
The real issue here is that Democrats - like Clinton, Obama and Biden - consistently sought to minimize objections from the Chamber of Commerce despite vicious attacks by them. Trump is being instructive with his ruthless use of power to accomplish an agenda. I’m talking process - not substance
Corporate America is made up rich people that fear equality with workers and poors more than hits to company profits.
Not to worry. They will all find their spine again when President Liberal McDemocrat is in charge.
those orgs are in favor of trump's mission, which is to enslave the overwhelming majority of americans and trap them in unfavorable labor markets where they feel they have no other option but to stay where they are and stay quiet about their pay/benefits for fear of losing their job. they love trump
The fact that there is a Chamber of Commerce and not a Chamber of Doctors or a Chamber of Scientists tells you everything you need to know about the issues of politics under capitalism
Where is Jamie Dimon??? Oh there’s a hurricane coming… He cries wolf once a week but this? Nada. What fucking coward. This feeds his sad ass and he will say nothing!
Consumers better wise up. Know which American businesses bent a knee to Trump's tariff/tax, cause they'll just pass-on the cost to customers, then let them eat cake & do business somewhere else.
Yes your friends in the MSM who you defend are complicit
Or maybe they would be. Maybe we should have just done that.
As Kamala Harris said last night on The Late Show is she did not imagine the level of capitulation.
scratch a free-market capitalist and you'll find a fascist.
Truth
Yeah, It's A Good Life
Maybe they simply think Trump is supposed to be the boss? No, it's not that--what ARE they thinking? Probably that he'll kill all labor unions and environmental regulation (or all regulation) for good or something like this.
It's all too hilarious. I'm broke AF , old AF , but I've decided the last thing I'm going to do is give these fuckheads an ounce of my worry or stress. This is what we thought it would be , a million X worse. Eat , drink , for tomorrow we die.
Boycott the businesses that are drowning in greed. Boycott the colleges that display cowardice. Stop spending money and let others know.
Get Fycked!!!
Fucking cowards. I think an employee (countrywide) walkout is NECESSARY!
Republicans have taken the knee to Donald Trump. Their names will be written in History for their lack of courage and honor. They took an oath to protect and defend our Constitution and have fail. Their children's children will be left to defend their family legacy which is indefensible.
Toss the full garbage can into the street & stop the traffic with what spills out!
Maybe I'm just being facile, but the business community's unwavering support of Republicans seems to come down to taxes and nothing more. As long as you cut taxes, you can introduce as much volatility into the economy as you'd like.
If Bernie Sanders had become president, the power of the presidency would have been reduced in a historically unprecedented way, and then if Trump came in after him, he would not be able to cause all this chaos.
If you’ve been simping for one party to get the goodies you want and giving the other party the middle finger, you probably rightly conclude that that other party is not cool with that at all. So you play it cool, hope the other party wins to save you from yourself. Then you can bitch at them again.
It is the trade off for eliminating any government oversight. As long as they jump when Trump says jump they can ignore all the laws and regulations without consequences.
I think Brexit showed businesses by and large are cowards when it comes to challenging the government on anything.
Sad
When you’re right, it’s the money, and when you’re wrong, it’s the principle.
They think there's something in it for them lol.
what I don't understand and I'm not joking is WHY these rich, powerful (usually white) business leaders & political figures are rolling over to show their throats to Donny Two Dolls? Why are they so afraid of him? Why are they such cowards?
Bernie 💕💕💕 🐦
What COULD have been.
That's because they know how to bribe and manipulate Trump.
You have an imposter. @chrihayes.bsky.social
Imagine if Barack Obama bulldozed the Rose Garden and was building a 90,000 sqft gilded ballroom. Imagine.
You can’t.
Chris Hayes QTing Michael Caley how do we get Chris to support Tottenham Hotspur? Chris how do you feel about self-loathing and existential dread?
Because these are conservative, elite institutions and all conservative institutions are filled with absolute worthless garbage
Because Big Biz has spent decades putting all their eggs in the Republican basket & now feel they have no one to turn to?
did he and Epstein gather enough damning evidence against such a broad swath of affluent and influential people that everyone in decision-making positions are being coerced?
Otherwise, they need to make it make sense, from a business/economic perspective.
Because they think they can bribe their way to policies that benefit them/their company...classic case of couldn't care less about anyone else if I'll be ok. The thing, they won't be ok
The 2017 & 2025 tax cuts for corps & the 1% bought a lot of silence.
The GOP mindset is so strong it defies self interest.
Sanders? The chamber of Commerce and business orgs, as well as legacy media, would erupt at any Democratic leader who did this. It would not be tolerated.
There are republican Congress members who own businesses that are losing their shirts because of the tariffs. At some point this isn’t worth it to them personally.
Bend over I guess 🤷🏻♀️🤷🏻♀️🤷🏻♀️sir thank you sir😡😡😡
Sanders woulda been assassinated months ago 😂😂😂
It would be the 1973 coup in Chile 2.0.
FFS someone say no to this guy before there’s nothing left of us.
Evidence that the people who run American business suck.
Remember when republicans talked about adult day care for the White House?
We could use some adult republicans to join the fray.
If BLS data become instead a political fabrication, not democrats, but all Americans, and financial operations worldwide will suffer.
Without truth, there is no hope.
It's that white supremacy, tho! They like it, too.
If Sanders were President there would've been another Business Plot by now
Stay on epstein relationship ....... they were extorting rich guys and VIPs with teen models, free massages ....... add a hidden camera and every 'Happy Ending' becomes another Wonderful Secret........... Here is HIS confession.
Our leadership should learn from this. There are enemies. And a successful party and politic would do well to identify them. The other side does.
Why are they so incredibly unable to stand up for themselves?
Capitalism and capitalist can never protect democracy
The Rich allowed democracy until they had enough money to dismantle it - with their riches, they turned ending democracy into a hobby - one piece at a time
Well said. My observation is that is unethical people like DJT have a world view that everyone is ad unethical as them - and we allow that circular justification to rule. Sad times.
Fucking sick commentary, bro. Aren't you glad you participated in the party delegitimizing his candidacy?
It's pretty disturbing to think about how over the last 30 or so years, tens of millions of Americans have been professing fake political convictions because they thought it would get them what they wanted, which was to follow a capricious and cruel madman in anything he decided to do.
Business seems "okay" with this state of play. I'd suggest it's because they were prepared, to an extent, and have positioned their businesses, and donations, to benefit from the outcome.
But it provides a basis for the next D to do just that - unilaterally raise taxes on the wealthy by claiming a national emergency. Screw the courts and the pusillanimous Rs in Congress: just start fixing the deficit and the hoovering of money from the middle and lower classes to the obscenely rich.
You guys never get tired of that "if" shit
We know. We fucking know
Instead of that "what if" nonsense - just type nothing!!!
Almost like all these supposedly legitimate points of view are a cover for a slightly lower high tax bracket tax rate
But big props to this admin for showing all Americans just how easy it’ll be to tax the rich 😏😏😏
I’d like to try that tho
I sort of think the whole thing smacks of gender tbh
Business owners willing to throw away hundreds of billions of dollars so they can rape their interns more easily again.
Why is everyone caplitulating?
Trump has 37% of the electorate. I can’t understand why the republicans in congress aren’t afraid of the other 67%
Say WHAT? Dumbass @chrislhayes.bsky.social with your stupid ass googly eye glasses. Lemme?
Lemme?
Capitalism always makes its bed with fascism and then is surprised when fascism burns down the store.
Again, why??? I always believed that businesses are in business to do business and make money. What is the payoff for participating blindly in the slaughter of the American economy?
Zohran merely mentioning the possibility of such things happening has drawn more attention than the real deal happening in DC.
After doing all that, Bernie should say anyone who opposes my actions are terrible human beings and then bring investigations against corporations that speak up. It has to be in offense all the time. And keep ratcheting up the ante against all who opposes him. Then there is hope.
I used to say Trump must have something on this person because they're scared to retaliate, but we're getting to a point where we have hundreds of people scared to retaliate... like, can he something on all of them 🤔 WTAF!
Businesses are counting on their getting an exception for themselves if they manage to grease a few palms.
When asked if they would be investing hundred of billions of dollars into a business environment where the rules change daily on the personal whims of a freaking loon, often to your disadvantage, Mr Business Org would only offer this comment....
Some of the organizations gave him millions to stay in business. They just gave the pedo Felon in chief permission to bend, and twist their pride. The 34 count felon will come back to ask for more blackmail!! Republican Congress is allowing this evil act! Vote them out!!!
Because they assume that the era of rapid deregulation will offset all the short-term fuckery. It's almost as if they think we'll never have a different party in power or something.
Maybe if he ALSO threatened to destroy their businesses they would be.
Raise the Hue and cry- no taxation without representation. It's a good bumper sticker, and still pretty Punchy after 250 years.
I keep hearing that the tariffs aren't an impediment to growth to justify stock valuations and well...
Apparently everyone in the World got together when Trump was born and decided that rules simply do not apply to him.
At almost exactly this point in Biden's term the Chamber of Commerce was absolutely livid that Biden encouraged competition and discouraged major consolidation/mergers.
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They fear retribution from Trump, they don't fear Dems. The Dems are too nice.
indeed.
Donald's "trade" deals will have a bigger negative impact on small businesses. If there are losses of small businesses, who stands to gain? Obviously, big retailers like Walmart or Amazon. Yes, it'll impact them, but they will be fine.
Statement from the Friends of BLS, which includes former BLS Commissioners appointed by Obama and Trump. bsky.app/profile/aaro...
Yes. Curious isn’t it?
They're all cucks.
Prisoners dilemma.
You can thank Fox News’ lies for that.
"The world will not be destroyed by those who do evil, but by those who watch them without doing anything." ~ Albert Einstein
The utter capitulation of everyone who might be heard. I call my Republican senators to ask for sanity. Crickets. Can anyone with power help?
Math doesn’t lie—people do. A buried NSA‑authorized audit paved the way for this unelected illegitimate regime.
The investment and corporate class are so invested in republicans being the party that’s good for the economy that they try as hard as they can to make it a self fulfilling prophecy (until the wheels totally come off and we have another financial crisis). Opposite for democrats.
They call Sanders a communist anti-American because he a heart and wants the best for average American people rather than JUST the billionaires. That's why I hope the winner of the Democratic primary in New York City wins the general election. I want to see MAGA's brains to explode and NY prosper
Big businesses are always pro fascist. They know the scale of the government contracts they are get or about to get. They know Trump will still let them crush unions, roll back regulations and let them screw workers.
They are also fascists who like Trump thinks the poor deserve there suffering.
It’s a category error that anyone ever thought these people or the GOP were “pro-business.” The GOP is pro-incumbent power, and business owners are pro-their own company/compensation.
Large businesses are led by individuals, many who think they’ll do well in a Trump reactionary autocracy.
Not to mention the headlines from the media, WSJ, NYTIMES, WAPO
At least they are out in the open now, they want to be ruled by a king, or at least a dictator. The same traitors that have been sabotaging this country since the revolution.
If Biden did this they would lose their f*cking minds.
Yeah, absolutely, I always thought that if you mess with American corporations and their money, you would be very quickly unalived.
“Would not be sitting idly by” is a nice way of saying that they would have self-immolated in front of the White House by now.
But he's a commie
The Chamber and the Business Roundtable have been sitting idly by on a lot of things.
They could have collectively pushed back on this anti-DEI shit, but nope.
Yeah, where's our Business Plot? These guys are weak sauce.
Tax cuts for billionaires are a helluva drug apparently
It’s kinda maddening. You expect the money to not roll over like this.
well yeah because they wouldn’t be getting economy breaking tax cuts
From Adam Tooze’s “Wages of Destruction”. It’s important to understand the role of business under fascism. This passage should be taught in schools.
![THE WAGES OF DESTRUCTION
outcome there will be no retreat ... if the election does not decide ... the decision must be brought about even by other means'.
Hitler did not take questions from his audience, nor did he spell out exactly what was expected of the business leaders. Hitler had not come to negotiate. He had come to inform them of his intentions. And his audience can have been left in no doubt. Germany's new Chancellor planned to put an end to parliamentary democracy. He planned to crush the German left and in the process he was more than willing to use physical force. At least according to the surviving record, the conflict between left and right was the central theme of the speeches by both Hitler and Goering on 20 February. There was no mention either of anti-Jewish policy or a campaign of foreign conquest? Hitler left it to Goering to reveal the immediate purpose of the meeting. Since German business had a major stake in the struggle against the left, it should make an appropriate financial contribution. 'The sacrifice[s]', Goering pointed out, 'would be so much easier... to bear if it [industry] realized that the election of 5 March will surely be the last one for the next ten years, probably even for the next hundred years.' Krupp von Bohlen, the designated spokesman for the business side, had prepared extensive notes for a detailed discussion of economic policy, but confronted with
this bald appeal, he thought better of introducing tedious details. Instead, he confined himself to stating that all present would surely agree on the need for the speediest possible resolution of the political situation.
Business fully supported the goal of establishing a government in the interests of the German people. Only under a strong and independent state could the economy and business 'develop and flourish'.
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I guess they just don’t follow the news😐
Cowards. All fucking COWARDS. SHAMEFUL HURTFUL. ANTI-AMERICAN. ANTI DEMOCRACY.
EXACTLY
Government is weakening labor for them, "let them fight"
Where the heck are they? Environmental stuff too.
SCOTUS would also rule all of it illegal.
The business leaders know they will come out ahead once Trump reintroduces chattel slavery
Anybody hear from Jamie Dimon?
Yeah, he gets breaks that no one else has ever gotten from people we can only assume are operating out of fear or greed. Just keep hearing this. It's moot. What can be DONE about it?
He's helping the bosses consolidate more power within their organizations. They're good.
Some might call it hypocrisy.
You forget that “Cowardice 301” is a required course in American business schools.
Aren't they applauding and writing checks?
Its because they are behind it. Death is the point. They want the U.S. like gaza so they can have their network states
I would argue that they're doing less than nothing. Their CEOs are going on the business shows saying "Everything's fine" like the dog in the room on fire while their company quarterlies tell a completely different story.
Soviet-style communism is fine for Wall Street as long as it’s right-coded.
Because the CEOs are pussies ?
What is it, Chris? What is it that is making so many people just sit by, flat out roll over, while the psychopath at the White House destroys our country? Does anybody know?
I think we are way past these comparisons and into a whole other territory.
democrats would not either, and yet
When they crash, they’ll expect to be bailed out.
Just read this thread and I have a much less political, nuanced hot take: When Trump accuses people of ANYTHING - it’s because he’s doing the very thing he’s complaining about. If he says “xx is cooking the books!” It TOTALLY MEANS that HE is cooking the books. Have we learned nothing since 2016???
Because Trump is putting money in their personal pockets… Bernie wanted to take it (rightfully so.)
There would be several privately funded armies at this point. Several
Exactly.
Also SCOTUS would rule against him.
Notice how there are NO CEOs denying or defending their inaction! I’m sure in there somewhere is a clause that will allow them to “write off” the tariff-taxes. Besides, the CEOs just tell middle managers to raise prices to maintain their profits. CEOs aren’t complaining because they won’t lose!
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They’re getting what they paid for??? They’re all F’ing MAGATS? Inflicting pain on their customers is more important? He’ll, I surely don’t know…
The GOP has been lying about the economy since the Reagan administration, and the business community continues to buy into it recession after recession.
Posturing is reality.
Guarenteed. No lies detected here.
If I’d told you in 2016 one of these ppl would use state power to disciple capital boy would we have all made the wrong guess
They are waiting for the federal tax holiday on off-shore profits. The thing Mitch McConnell said would be the death of the Republican party back in 2020.
That is the corporate end game.
How many multi millionaires will instantly become billionaires?
It's all they care about.
Just saying 😑
All these Fortune 500 CEOs are finding out how they would have acted back in 1930s Germany, huh?
A command economy, but right-ishly
They want an oligarchy, period.
Trump's promise to end corporate regulation and oversight. That's why the captains of industry are sitting idly by.
The U.S. DOGE Service is using a new AI tool to eliminate federal regulations, aiming to cut 50 percent of rules by the first anniversary of President Donald Trump’s inauguration.
Congress should control Bureau of Labor Statistics because it is going to have a hard time regulating commerce when it does not know what is going on.
Imbecile Democrats did not understand why our founders never wanted Presidents to regulate value of money, commerce
Erika McEntarfer, the commissioner of the Bureau of Labor Statistics, has been fired after releasing a jobs report that angered President Donald Trump.
The clown has never been successful and I am bemused when his MAGA voters say he is a good businessman. He will burn this country down very soon.
Now imagine he was a paedophile too ......
Yes, but thanks to the precedents set by Trump and the immunity SCOTUS gave him, President Sanders can make the Chamber of Commerce and Wall Streeters grovel and kneel just like he did to colleges, hospitals, journalists, networks, some judges, etc.
It's really just vibes. Everything is just vibes. They think Donnie cares for them so thereby everything he does is fine. If they have trouble they know he'll bail them out.
That's the long and short of it. Capitalists are just vibing and choosing not to see reality.
Business: get off your cellulite asses and stop him.
The Chamber of Commerce is an abomination.
That’s because he would not have a cryptocoin providing a quick route to being paid off.
They are chicken shts and afraid to stand up to this screwed up grifter. Incredible.
Corporations do not care if there is a democracy or fascism. Just look at companies like Mercedes in the 1930s-40s. As long as they can make money.
You're truly obsessed with Bernie.
That's no reason not to do it anyway.
But I'd have supported it!
this seems to be your first right-wing coup?
We’re finding out how docile Americans are as they are led to slaughter by an evil, deranged clown.
Watching CNBC is a surreal experience these days. You'll hear market analysts say things such as "yes, this is all likely against the law. But there were tax cuts & the uncertainty over whether or not we're still a democracy has already been baked into the market"
Ask Ford how they enjoy losing 100's of millions.
Fascism is always an alliance between the far right and business elites but usually the business elites get something out of it for a while at least, this time they're taking it in the shorts right away
Amazing how terrified all these powerful entities are of this corrupt fucking moron.
Compare the response to a the mere possibility of a Mamdani mayorship!
“The Business Plot: Pro-Fascism Since 1933, And It’s About Damn Time!”
I do not understand why there isn’t an effort for businesses and universities to collaborate against all that Trump is throwing at them. He continues to be able to divide and conquer!!!
That's what fascism is all about, the corporate elite doesn't mind authoritarianism when they know it's about the owner class punching down
If only he had won a primay.
But..wait Alas, considering who 'brung him to the Party', only twice in his 82 yrs, 2016 & 2020, Bern may have revealed his reality.
