What’s it going to take?
I think about this every damn day
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I don't see a way out except civil war.
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Me too.
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A blood clot about 5.56 mm in diameter?
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boiled frogs
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You are not alone in this thought. :(
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About 3 days more range time for practice than the last guy.
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A crash unlike anything we've ever experienced. Extreme hardship for those who voted for Donald Trump. Because a lot of them will be thrown under the bus. Full publication of Epstein files. Changing the narrative about him dominating social media ecosystem to Gov. Newsom & others trolling him out.
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Genuinely surprised we haven't seen a single high profile resignation or firing over the domestic deployments of the Guard. I was hopeful there would be a fire wall among the officers.
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A myocardial infarction
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A MASSIVE turnout in 26’
We need to overwhelm polling places
Adolph Orange and his cult WILL rig the next 2 elections
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Right? I keep asking what is the line that he will cross that will enrage every last one of us. Mine was when he mocked the disabled reporter
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It’s going to take every single person in America who understands how utterly unacceptable it is to stop talking like we are accepting it.
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Short version. Violence. That’s what they want.
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Strange because he is doing the things we all hate about Trump, but Newsom's press office is making me feel like it is hitting home every damned day like nothing else has since Jan 20th.
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Idk man. Some investigative journalists doing work on press corruption could be useful.
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We need enough people willing to stop working, stop buying and stop patronizing so that Corporate America starts to lose money. The donor class putting the screws to Trump and the GOP is the only thing that will end this.
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Cmon america You can do better
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#TrumpEpsteinFiles
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I don't know, I was sure covid was going to take him.
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Fingers 🤞
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This, and also "is it time to leave yet?"
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An uprising
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The sad truth is that we’ve reverted to the mean.
Those of us who thought we were better than this were so, so wrong.
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Oh, oh! I got this! What if he crashed the stock market and ruined all our trading relationships? No? Okay.
What if he held a live infomercial for his biggest campaign donor on the White House lawn? No? Okay.
What if he tried to end Constitutionally guaranteed birthright citizenship? No? Okay. 1/
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You and me both
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the answer is You and many others.. ( Please click on the frames to expand to read).. Time the Diddler got diddled.. bsky.app/profile/ogre...
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For ppl to realise that the emperor has no cloths on?
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Live the question.
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❝❞ Culture wars are not background noise... Meaning is never fixed. The stories we tell, the symbols we elevate, and the rituals we practice will decide whether culture becomes a weapon of division or the foundation of shared democratic life. jamesbgreenberg.substack.com/p/culture-wa...
Culture Wars and the Architecture of Authoritarianism
How Symbols, Rituals, and Everyday Life Scaffold Authoritarianism in the United States
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We ALL need to do what Newsome’s doing. We need to altogether laugh about and at Trump. And we need to ALL do that here, today and every day. We need a millions voice chorus laughing at the emperor with gold clothes.
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Lots of things happening all at once. Lots of conversations and confrontations with people we love that we would rather not have. Lots of education. Lots of being brave. Also lots of mockery (making good progress on that one!)
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A 20k Dow drop. Nothing happens until The Street recognizes that fascism is bad.
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SCOTUS to eat a little humble pie and reverse their immunity decision as a patently bad idea
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You and me both, Kai. Let's just hope it's not a World War this time.
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It’s definitely going to take a whole lot more people to wake up and take notice of the Republican Party’s chokehold on liberty and democracy.
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Tax. Wealth. First.
Everything else will follow.
Spread the word.
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I’ve been wondering what level of defending the constitution against its enemies is warranted.
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Foreign intervention
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Billionaires who care more about democracy/rule of law than making another dollar. Why does RW have heavily funded Heritage, etc and the pro-democracy folks have ? Alternatively, it will take a collapsed economy, e.g., worldwide Great Depression that justifies/enables real structural change.
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I had to stop asking. Same with climate change or endangered species.
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A Tax the Rich campaign so we can have UBI, universal health care, and a growing economy. Yes, this is really possible. There is so much wealth just sitting in billionaires’ portfolios that can be put to better use by the bottom 50%. Just get those 50% behind you.
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Everyone who disapproves of the job he's doing getting out and voting, despite whatever roadblocks the Republicans throw up.
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White people being taking away is what I think. That might wake up the country. Might. But this is America and who we really are and it makes me want to be sick....
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We tried the easy way. No deal. In the past, Americans had different solutions. Results ranged from refusal of the Dutch to fight the invading English for their governor, the Declaration of Independence (too radical for some) and the Civil War. The GOP has the most to fear from their own people.
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We all know, but can not say in public. Gather in private and make plans. This is the way Star Wars generation. We watched. We were taught. We need to act. Stupidity you say? Give me another idea to remove this steaming pile of 💩. Protest, vote, call, write. Done it all. Nothing changed.
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Upper-middle class white people no longer being able to buy the things they are used to buying - at any price.
Whether that is health care, travel, dining experiences, or fine foods, but especially impossibly cheap high quality clothing like we get at Costco.
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A little more than 10 percent of the population, roughly.
But corporations and retail investors can keep this nonsense going probably for years if we're being honest
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More money for education and less money for guys with guns.
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Trump criminally mishandled the Covid pandemic. Our death rate was DOUBLE that of Canada's. Mass graves, Doctors and nurses dying without protective gear.
And Biden BARELY won in 2020.
Until the media stops normalizing/boosting/protecting Trump -nothing will happen.
We're screwed.
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it will take Death ...being a little shameful
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People with power & money to purchase some courage and a soul. Or dissolution of the union.
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Principles or fear.
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I may not live to see what it takes. I think about that every damn day.
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A pulmonary embolism in either Murdoch or Trump. Those are your two tent poles.
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The centuries-long indoctrination of Christianity makes revolution impossible in this country. Too many stupid, uninformed people in every sector of society.
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GOP delenda est.
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It’s going to take people feeling real financial pain like to really feel it
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I feel like the white ppl in this country. Don’t feel like this is an emergency cuz it’s not really going to affect them much but they’re wrong. They’re gonna find out how wrong they are. It’s gonna be awful. I’m thinking probably more than 6 million ppl will be exterminated before we do ANYTHING.
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I am still waiting for that overly disgruntled person with no future and a mission and to end him.
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We have six state’s national guards occupying the capitol, Kai. What is it going to take, indeed
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Many, many Boomer funerals. (Sorry, Boomers.)
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For us to demand good for all of us? Because that's going to take some time and we don't have it.
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Based on history and anectodally (from Indiana), it's going to have to get a lot worse before it gets better.
Trump's supporters have to feel real financial pain that they have no excuse to blame anyone except Trump.
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Me too. We need to be persistent, creative, and fierce. Lots to like about Free DC's response. (freedcproject.org)
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It's going to take all of us, reminding tRUMP of the #EpsteinFiiles AND countering his false narrative at every turn. You are doing a good job.
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A general strike. This country needs to shut down. Stop acting like this is acceptable.
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More focus by the rest of us
Consistent, daily reminders of each bad Trump item (this NEVER happens)
The economy to go into a ditch - and everyone not budging an inch to blame him for it
Have to use his tactics against him
Midterms are big
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There will never be something that’s enough for some. For the others, it’s going to take it being too late to come back from before they realize what we’ve lost.
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WWIII. I think.
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His obituary.
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A general strike
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I wish the sterile dem leaders asked the same question to themselves.
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I wish the sterile dem leaders asked the same question to themselves.
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👍♾
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Death
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First step: Democratic politicians naming the names of their Republican colleagues who have privately expressed their reservations about the senile sack of salmonella in a suit.
Second step: Those Republican colleagues find their spine and balls.
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As a student of history, unfortunately I think it will take something pretty cataclysmic.
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The first Democrat to "fall" out of a window ought to do it.
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When is enough going to finally be enough
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same...
and I fear that, when we have to pay the price, too many will see it as too high.
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Me too
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you could start with npr news not being fucking shitty
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Cholesterol
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We're way past democratic norms.
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The end of the 24/7 right wing disinformation industry?
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Seriously, what is taking the Big Macs and Diet Coke so long to do their jobs!
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It’s clear Dems don’t think anything will happen until midterms but that’s a pretty long wait at this point. I’ve been thinking there’s a way to use the resources at our disposal and force a resignation through escalating degrees of withholding and reorganizing within a blue state pact.
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Another 20-30 years of this escalating, then either a failed war ending in occupation by another power, or else a bloody revolution; seems to be the historical precedent
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It's going to take average people becoming uncomfortable enough that they don't care about the consequences, and are willing to take action no matter what.
That usually doesn't happen in fascist countries through, because it's only some people being hurt.
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I do too. What if he actually has a political naysayer jailed or killed, what happens then? I mean, there was one kidnapped yesterday and crickets.
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Boston Massacre. That's what it's going to take.
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Opposition. REAL opposition. Organized opposition. Would be helpful if the leaders of (purportedly) the opposition party weren’t still cozying up to all the moneyed interests that have brought us directly to this moment.
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Tramp transitioning for starters.
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A coup. The military is already in DC. They just need to be principled and brave enough to switch sides with the people.
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He'd have to make out with Ivanka on the White House lawn, and even then I'm not sure
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Real and sustained financial distress affecting Trump voters — beyond what can be blamed on Biden/Obama/whomever. We’re on the down slope and the bottom isn’t in sight.
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This is impossible.
It would take a reboot of this country.
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Nukes. The end of it all.
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Luigi
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Americans to realise they hold more power than they can possibly imagine when unified.
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A serious economic meltdown should do it. Which is inevitable.
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(Thinks what everyone else is thinking but won’t put in writing)
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Same. Trump is at peak narcissistic fever. I keep hoping he does or says something so egregious that his base and cronies say that is enough. Maybe then the pendulum can begin to swing back.
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Since 2015, for me. Lows keep getting lower.
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Many of us do Kai
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Same
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General strikes for sure. States saying no more subsidizing regressive states. Leaders who rise to the moment.
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Heart failure or uremia😂👍👏👏👏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏
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How many more Big Macs is it going to take?
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Me. Too.
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Find myself thinking about this often. Maddening.
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I think it’s going to take a group of maga people realizing they’ve been duped the last ten years and they decide to use their 2A rights to fight the tyrannical govt they’ve been itching to fight for the last 20 years.
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It’s going to take a realization among our highly-compensated elites in business and corporate media that they were given positions of great power and prestige and need to start looking out for the general well-being of the country, not just their shareholders amass boards members.
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What will it take? More pain, unfortunately. Some people are very stubborn to learn. Even if its learning to be a fellow human
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Nothing will cause most Republicans to accept facts, science, the lessons of history or to do the right, lawful things to protect our democracy and the institutions that uphold it. That’s the real problem.
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Same
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Someone with clout calling for a general strike - and then actually organizing multiple labor unions to get it started
People want direction from someone trustworthy - both are in short supply currently
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It will take more than most Americans are willing to sacrifice, that's for sure.
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That’s what I would ask John Roberts
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Me, too. I honestly don’t know. I think it’s going to take much much longer than I hope.
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Combat.
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Economic recession
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I leave my phone downstairs at night. Every morning walking down the stairs I silently wish …
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It doesn’t require everyone, just enough people who are willing to say no. Read Gene Sharp’s work on non-violent resistance. My biggest concern is the Genius act legislation which seems aimed at creating a shadow bank in private hands www.unftr.com/trump-stable...
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gene_Sh...
Gene Sharp - Wikipedia
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Same.
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Same. And for the first time yesterday it occurred to me that the US as we know it is done. The mid terms will be manipulated, it’s starting now with redistricting, as will the presidential elections with vote by mail and voting machines. It will be one party rule from now on I’m very sad to say.
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Applicable to so many things right now- markets, democracy etc.
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maybe a national work stoppage, but working people can’t afford to not have a job.
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We seemed to be gaining some protest momentum in June/July, but it's all very unfocused now. We need ONE day and ONE location (in DC) to express all frustrations. From the Supreme Court to the Capitol to the White House.
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Aren’t we all?
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Mother Nature needs to answer the call.
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Something has to break through the Fox/Newsmax bubble.
"Why does man behave like perfect idiot? This is the problem I wish to deal with." ~ Albert Szent-Gyorgyi
I wish someone would.
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Bond sales. Or lack thereof.
Because the "full faith and credit of the United States" will be called into question as data from the feds grows increasingly incongruous with that of the private sector.
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It’s going to take release of the #TrumpEpsteinFiles
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Death. Because there clearly is no bottom. No shame.
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There have been dozens of things I was sure would end it for him. I've been wrong every damn time. How does he keep getting away with shitting on the Constitution every single day??
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If you’re referring to the @democrats.org waking up to the genuine concerns of everyday Americans, I’m afraid that’s not going to happen.
If transgenderism is such a minor issue, why are the Democrats pushing it?
Americans want our federal government to enforce our laws.
Trump’s doing that.
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Stock market crash, that is the only thing. Until the rich and wealthy are hurt by Trump they will remain ten toes deep. As long as capitalism is working for the upper tiers bottom lines they will be able stomach and support unimaginable levels of fascism.
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One honest election.
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Hard same, Kai. Hard same.
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"We live in capitalism. Its power seems inescapable. So did the divine right of kings. Any human power can be resisted and changed by human beings." - Ursula K. Le Guin
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You, and me, and everyone I know. There seems to be no bottom to this pit.
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Americans don't want an America...
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They say evil doesn’t die..I hope they’re wrong…
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Economic collapse. Total economic collapse.
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I need someone with a large platform to tell me what date to begin the strike. I’m willing to endure financial hardship but I need to believe it’ll have an effect
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Stock market/crypto needs to fall considerably to have a chance. Otherwise, average American won't do anything--they're getting rich by doing nothing.
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Most of the day, every damn day.
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Sadly, I know exactly what you're saying here.
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People won't act until the fires are at their doorstep.
Luckily, we can be the fires by being impossible to ignore.
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All of us.
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Often my first thought every single day
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Nothing sticks. I don’t get it. I feel like I am in a parallel universe.
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The answer to that really stresses me out. It's going to get very very bad before the spell breaks. If it ever does.
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What is what going to take? Be specific.
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Balls and mass strikes
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I keep telling my family that it may take 10-15 yrs for our country to have normal elections and Rs getting back to where they were. That's a whole generation and Gen Zers are unhappy with that.
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A 9/11-style organized attack. “We fight. We fight like hell. And if you don’t fight like hell, you’re not gonna have a country anymore”. - Donald Trump
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Organization.
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GASSING PEOPLE TO DEATH?
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Alliances among vast organizations including states, cities, academic institutions, unions, etc leading to a general strike and the creation of alternative institutions.
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It will take death and suffering in red states from lack of medical funding, lack of vaccines, loss of jobs because of tariffs and the collapse of the social safety net in those states.
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10 million marching on DC. That’d a lot less sacrifice than our Forefathers.
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Same.
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Y'all in the media speaking truth
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Same. Every. Damn. Day
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Me too. 😔
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Trump is the sock puppet of The Heritage Foundation.
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We need to take to the streets in a wave of spontaneous rage and stay there! Yeah, they will swing batons and throw tear gas. TOUGH. We stay. They need to go.
Buy a gas mask.
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Have you listened to Tad Stoermer? If not, I highly suggest doing so. He’s precisely what I’ve been waiting for, with the strategic knowledge as a historian.
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What’s it going to take? Something most of us don't have.
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Me too.
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Well nothing will happen until the media is willing to openly call Trump a corrupt authoritarian and question his intelligence, and loyalty to the US.
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“Some people love the lash” Tsarina referencing why the Russian serfs hadn’t risen up and crashed the monarchy earlier.
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A General Strike. Coast to coast, top to bottom. Three days, Monday, Tuesday, and Wednesday. All else we need is a list of grievances and a list of demands.
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I'm not even American and wonder that too. Trump's world seems to get worse and worse everyday. I see these people like Bondi talking like Nazis and it sickens me. I hope more Republicans come to their senses and see that Trump's world is not their idea of a good world, in fact a bad and evil one. 🥵
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The end of the Lion King. That’s what it’s going to take.
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Boycott, strike, non-compliance and undermining. And less posting and more doing.
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Me too. We are in a living hell. I have thought this tho—if the media TOTALLY ignored Trump, maybe he would lose his oxygen and die sooner. Thoughts from my husband & me
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I wake up every morning hoping for two things, a Republican coup AGAINST him, and him not breathing anymore.
