The crux of their argument is that if they're found liable, then the consequences of their own actions that no one forced them to take could ruin them and the rest of their industry that undertakes similar practices.
To which I say motherfucker did you never hear about Napster
Copyright class actions could financially ruin AI industry, trade groups say.
A key weakness of the civil court system is that it cannot hand down prison sentences.
The worst thing about AI’s violation of copyright is that it doesn’t even manifest in a recognizable form
It’s not obvious, like, “hey, listen: they sampled my tune”
It just all goes into the blender, with the bot asserting an authority on a given subject that it never earned
But it's crucial to my product, "every movie ever made, for free" that I illegally download every movie ever made. You would be killing this industry if you said it was illegal
The AI industry is alreasy financially ruined. They consistently hover up like a couple hundred billion in funding only to to post warning of like 5 million
People realise this… right???
If your industry is based on theft of other people's work, it deserves to be ruined.
I mean the “funny” thing is that if they’re found liable then most of the US stock market and gdp collapses, because it’s overwhelming based on like 4 companies buying graphics cards from nvidia at bigger volumes for more money to train models with stuff they stole
Good. Somehow the brakes need to be applied to the runaway AI industry.
Gees I forgot about Napster…
How sad, too bad.
I've had friends' artwork usurped to train ai... www.cnn.com/2022/10/21/t...
In just months, millions of people have flocked to text-to-image AI systems and they are already being used to create experimental films, magazine covers and images to illustrate news stories. An imag...
It is surprising that groups representing authors and copyright holders are essentially agreeing with Anthropic on the main point of contention.
Leads me to believe they will probably win on getting the class certification thrown out
Thieves horrified to face trial for theft.
Those who fail to learn from history get their ass sued to the Stone Age
The case against Napster was bullshit.
Napster.....
Why the hell is this article written entirely from anthropic's perspective? Stupid ass corporate propaganda outlet.
You know, ask me about a year ago and I would've said "We did do it, but should not be punished for" is not a sound legal defense.
Today though, it's anyone's guess IMO.
Napster bad! 😆
🤞🏼🤞🏼🤞🏼🤞🏼
Bruh I was the biggest fan of Napster back in the day and even I will tell you the case against Napster was airtight.
Napster very stupidly kept a database of what was on every computer on their network, so they couldn't say they weren't aware of infringement.
This is why distributed P2P was born.
I've mentioned this repeatedly, but Fair Use is an affirmative defense.
You affirm that you did indeed violate copyright, but based on the accepted definitions of fair use you feel as though you can prove your use case was legal.
I don't think "We wanted to do this but not pay anybody" will work.
Napster wasn't saving CEOs millions of dollars in labour costs, I might not hold my breath on this one.
“It makes money so it is morally correct” tends to lose in court with great regularity
Hope they face ruin 🤞🤞
Oh no, ruin them? Too bad
The sooner they "ruin" the LLM industry, the better!
Lying machines that accelerate the heat death of our planet, drain our potable water, and profit only 7 men.
How do you make something the pinned post for everyone on this entire website?
Coming soon: "If we have to pay our employees and suppliers, it will ruin our industry!"
Oh no! We can't ruin the thing that's stealing from people! 😱 /s
This lawsuit would not only crush AI, but libraries and search engines.
They had every opportunity, at every turn, at every level of their companies, at every branch of their decisionmaking tree, to make the right choices.
And without fail each time they choose greed and theft.
I wouldn't be surprised if they did and thought, "Oh, that would never happen to me."
but they're already operating on a huge loss, hoping to sell to some schmuck who thinks they can do better. it's been a disaster from the beginning. let it fail.
If Lars specifically goes after this stuff like he went after Napster then those LLM guys have no idea what they're in for.
I'd rather have Napster than this.
“We’re enjoying fucking around. What do you mean by ‘finding out’?”
I fully support the entire AI industry seeing the consequences for their actions.
Too bad. They stole copyrighted work, and used it without payment or acknowledgement. Burn them down.
This is a lot of money on the table.
There is one argument - what if some countries use copyrighted content to develop AI? (assuming they can). In that case they should nationalize these companies and prevent them from making a buck using stolen content.
Hope this burns the industry to the ground
Artificial Immaturity is palgairism
Individual downloads songs: Sued for millions.
These guys: Well I'm sure we can get away with stealing all works ever, right?
Oh no. How terrible. 🍹
Bwahahaha...
oh, they're worried about "emboldened" rights-holders, are they? after they just decided to steal whatever they could reach? how fucking dare
Fingers crossed…
should financially ruin the industry
I hope they bleed money, the shameless thieves.
Well, if it isn't the consequences of their own actions.
Zero sympathy from this lawyer. Zero.
