'A NSFW ban won't negatively affect me, I don't draw or post porn!'

You sure? Here's how it went down when tumblr did it:

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  1. internet didn't become hostile nor is dead, It is working for what It was originally designed by the army in the 70s: be a huge propaganda chamber for the neonazis. We have to flee from internet entirely and create a brand new community-driven web, It's not safe here anymore.

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  2. Don't forget that the CEO stalked and harassed a trans woman across multiple social media platforms because she was vocal about how Tumblr moderation disproportionately affects trans woman.

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  3. The fact that Tumblr, a massive website once well known for harboring left leaning communities, now has a notable neo-nazi base shows that these NSFW bans are and always will be bullshit, and the kids and YAs who support these censorship policies are just as fucking stupid.

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  4. I was kicked off of Tumblr for posting porn when I ran a SFW korrasami and life is strange account.

    Bans always hurt everyone but they hurt fans of queer media the most.

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  5. And YET, we still have PORN BOTS. Plus, that stupid tumblr live feature was straight up porn sometimes too in the thumbnails.

    So it didn’t DO anything, just silenced real creators who took care to ensure those who didn’t want to see their content had to.

    Also I saw food getting flagged constantly.

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  6. 🌙 this is more proof to me that i must just have a completely different version of tumblr from everyone else because what the fuck do you mean “active neonazi base”

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  7. God I remember how idiotic Tumblr's crackdown on NSFW content was. I ran an out of context Spider-Man blog where I just posted panels or pages that seemed funny without context, and half my posts were flagged/blocked for no reason. Gotta protect the kiddos from Venom talking about spaghetti I guess.

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  8. And thing is, it didnt even work. Tumblr is still full of nsfw content, they just alter the tags a little. And sometimes you dont even have to do that.

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  9. I see people laughing and calling the nsfw bans great for getting rid of 'gooners' but they'll be feeling it when they realize just how much the stupidly vague criteria creeps into innocent things like nude life drawings and what not. People will abandon these platforms and make home elsewhere.

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  10. I've seen way more naked trans women after the ban than before on Tumblr.

    Before, you had to actually look. Blogs had a 18+ check (click the button thing) and it was impossible to just stumble onto porn while browsing unless most of the people you followed were porn blogs.

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  11. I've only really heard glimpses about the tumbler porn ban, but I didn't know that it escalated like this?

    My jaw dropped when I read that they abused it to enforce censorship.

    This is scary.

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  12. around when the tumblr thing was going down. It flagged this, as NSFW. I had never draw anything the least bit nsfw at that point, and was a timid Mormon trying to make it as an illustrator. This is what i'm afraid of. This is what we should all be afraid of.

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  13. Should mention the main motivation (getting rid of porn) didn't even work. If you just look up bewbs instead of boobs you'll find it. Not to mention pornbots still exist and spam tags on completely unrelated shit, so you could look up something innocent and see full nudity thanks to them

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  14. oh yeah I had a band fan blog there ages ago and every single picture got flagged as nsfw and I had to click appeal on so many it was horribly annoying. all of the pictures were safe for work!

    meanwhile there's still porn bots and now also gaza scammer bots that will spam your inbox daily ugh

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  15. It also harmed a lot of POC, like tumblr had two big nukes of many POC’s accounts (porn ban and post-BLM targeting). Staff refuses to do anything about harassment and even engages in it themselves, while blogs that happen to exist as visibly trans POC get nuked

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  17. Even worse, I think their terrible algorithm flagged one of my selfies as csem or gore or sth

    (I am a full grown adult and my selfie was fully clothed)

    No human ever looked at the appeal though, and now I can no longer share that exact photo on other sites - it gets blocked with a warning

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  18. I had a post on tumblr that was a picture of a pressboard with notes on it and it got removed. I guess because the pressboard had a color some people could have as skin tone.

    And the rest of tumblr was treated just like that. One of the dumbest events in Internet history.

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  19. I wasn’t posting on tumblr when that ban went into effect, but I remember hearing plenty of artists I follow complaining about it. I don’t remember fully, but it seems like whatever identifying AI or system they were using would mark art or photos as porn if it had a certain amount of peach colour.

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  20. Damn i had no idea things got so bad, i left when the ban happened and now i only open then app like once or twice a year to see the april fools things and look at fanart

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  21. I feel like I’ve reported more porn scam bots with unfiltered photos of women in lingerie than NFSW made by actual people. NSFW artists have to do internet wizardry to even get their stuff past the censors despite proper labeling their works.

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  22. Literally yesterday I had to appeal an artwork for being flagged as nsfw by tumblr...it was of a tan man(yes-dressed) in the desert (scary skin colours!!!!!!!) and one of my old reblogs of a cat is also flagged...for some reason So yeah no one is save at any point in time

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  23. I remember when for a short while Tumblr had their stupid Tumblr LIVE thing. Couldn't hide it without a web extension or something and legit one time I saw a thumbnail of someone spreading their ass right above my dash and went huh.

    Ban did nothing positive.

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  24. Given the choice between NSFW and bigots, a certain pig said it best. Not exactly the context of the movie, but the point stands.

    The scene from Porco Rosso where the lead, a man with a pig's head, says, "I'd rather be a pig than a fascist."
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  25. I had nearly a decade of sketches and art studies in there, no genitals, maybe a but or two, but almost no nipples either. Literally all of it has been flagged, and I was so scared to get terminated I just deleted it all. A chunk of my art journey just gone bc I wasn't allowed to archive it anymore

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  26. here's my favorite instance of one of my images getting flagged. this was from as recently as a couple months ago

    A light gray isometric grid on white paper. Above it is a label that says, "We reviewed your post and determined it needed a Content Label."
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  27. Round about the time Tumblr banned all NSFW content I was posting photos of landscape paintings. A series entitled “back alleys of Gloucester” were all pulled by their AI censoring algorithms.

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  28. Certain disability terms that get overly sexualised have their tags turned off so people cannot find community with their disability as well

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  29. Not to mention it's gotten even worse over time as well. Recently they made it where being fat was a blacklist-able offense because it's "promoting disordered eating." No touches to the actual proana and similar posts though. I shouldn't have to be censored just because I'm fat, but here we are.

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  30. I posted a picture of Verizon's stocks the day after the NSFW ban and it got flagged. Fair I suppose. It was a picture of Verizon getting fucked.

    Also a cute picture I reblogged of the Best Friend Squad from She-Ra ALSO got banned.

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  31. there's an account I follow that posts art from numerous artists to help get them out there & to support art in general. they had quite a large # of posts get flagged here, despite the art in them not being NSFW in any way.

    if such moderations come with actual consequence, all artists are screwed

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  32. Tumblr also did all this for "the advertisers" and i regularly get ads for a refrigerated deli counter and that machine at the opticians that squirts air in your eye.

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  33. Shit like this also happened on Livejournal way back in the day, and is one of the direct reasons why AO3 exists right now. (Search for 'strikethrough' and 'livejournal' if you're curious.)

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  34. I haven't used Tumblr since the purge even though I really liked it and I was surprised to find earlier this month that my friend still uses it daily. For what? I don't understand what's even there anymore

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  35. LITERALLY. A bunch of my content got deleted bc im trans. I didn't even show my body, besides back muscles. One video was JUST MY FACE showing how my voice changed. And it still got deleted. Thank you for saying this

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  36. Ah - I was there for that. The filter was so busted - robots swing dancing were porn. A drawing of two teddy bears sitting together was porn.

    I then did a painting of a saint with gore and her tits out on a platter- the filter never touched it.

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  37. I also read that the ban didn't affect CSAM. So it wiped out queer communities while CSA "communities" thrived.

    Of my art, a pencil drawing of a meerkat got flagged as NSFW. Also some others, but that's the one I remember and that's still not accessible.

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  38. Same with Pinterest where if you dare only put a pin on artistic nudity or someone in lingerie (not pictured as erotism) or simply something looking vaguely too much for payment processors and advertisers, you'd get your pins deleted and eventually your account nuked (even if you're not the owner)

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  39. Honestly even with how well I've curated my dash on Tumblr to avoid the mentioned neonazi shitheads, I've found myself using it less and less. It's kinda sad bc it was really a unique experience compared to any other online space

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  40. I had a costume pic flagged where I wore a beige dress. I just took a peek and it has still not been unflagged. I dont use Tumblr anymore

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  41. My partner's totally sfw account got flagged as adult material because he, one time, reblogged a post of someone spinning a savloy sausage in their hands.

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  42. I mean I don't draw NSFW art and my figure study (which I labeled as artistic non sexual nudity) got auto labeled as sexual content and appealing did nothing. I literally didn't draw any genitals and it said it was sexually explicit. Artist are already being censored on her

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  43. To borrow a joke from an old black-and-white movie.

    “Be sure to watch your language “

    “I don’t swear “

    “you’d be surprised what they consider swearing “

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  44. Actually part of why I’m this cranky/suspicious of new “guidelines.” I draw naked pinups less often than I get Korean barbecue, but I wound up having to appeal what felt like nearly everything on Tumblr, and it was such a wet blanket I gave up on the site.

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  45. I think it was a few years ago, Twitch tried to do a whole thing of banning NSFW emotes, and it actually ended up removing MANY furry streamer's emotes because the character wasn't wearing clothing. NSFW bans tend to really miss the mark.

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  46. Also "an NSFW ban won't negatively affect me, I don't draw or post porn!" I see, so we have fully circled back to the "I don't know how to explain to you that you should care about other people" era of social justice

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  47. Every few years, the site that I use to follow artists becomes unusable, and everyone migrates to the next one. DeviantArt, Tumblr, Twitter, it's all just an endless cycle.

    Let's hope Bluesky lasts a few years.

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  48. one of my blogs i made to document forensic studies and resources was flagged then banned after multiple (tagged!!!) posts featuring cadavers and other related material with no way to appeal, despite it being educational and the rules said it would be allowed. years of work on that blog for nothing

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    1. NSFW of all kinds stopped being tagged out of fear of getting your account nuked. This made using the site in public near unusable, as tag filters no longer worked.

    More people saw NSFW content as a result, including kids.

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  49. The most absurd thing about tumblr is that posts tagged with nsfw get removed, so people started using nsft (not safe for tumblr) and to this day it still works for text posts

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  50. I got all my accounts banned and it took a year and a half to even get an EXCUSE out of them as to why, and when they finally did they claimed I had posted "child sexual abuse material".

    I had posted images FROM ART MUSEUMS, that people see every day, that included Leda and the swan.

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  51. This is why I always tell people two things, 1) oppression is a boot, NOT a scalpel, and 2) just because it shouldnt exist, doesnt mean it wont. Its really hard obvi bc some content really SHOULDN'T BE MADE, but banning one thing only leads to other non problematic things possibly being grouped in:/

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  52. The solution to kids entering adult spaces and being exposed to explicit content is not to erase or police those spaces. Parents need to be more attentive to what their children are doing on the internet, teach them about the possible dangers and pay more attention.

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