Misogyny would explain both, but unfortunately it’s illegal to suggest people really really hate women
I don't think center left or left or center pundits have put forward a single coherent explanation of the 2016 election following the 2024 election as literally all of their theories of the 2016 election were disproven by the Biden term.
Oh, but we are hated. It's so very blatant and clear.
Too angry (not at you, I agree with you) to reply substantively.
I fear the first female US president might be a Thatcher type.
That's my theory of the crime.
Hillary and Kamala also ran when trump wasn't in office. Biden had the advantage of running against trump's actual chaos in COVID. I don't think misogyny explains all of it. In fact, Kamala doing better than Biden would've (which I absolutely believe) disproves this.
I mean, not for nothing do like 30% of Americans profess a religion where women aren’t allowed to lead a church.
And of course the replies to this post are proving the point.
It would and many do but that’s not the reason.
America HATES women
‘Have you considered that misogyny (or even just bias) explains this result, because it’s happened twice now?’ ‘So you’re blaming men/playing the victim card/gender card/etc’ Perfect circle, can repeat endlessly
But it was her turn. So it was my patriotic duty to vote for the orange man.
I'm sorry, what is there to explain? Trump is a better politician than Hillary.
The R party and its messaging machine are Palpatine's Empire level ruthless and powerful.
External factors swung heavily in his favor in 2024 so he won again.
I have men in my life who are great in every other way who just won't see this. Like they agree misogyny exists but think I am overstating. It so frustrating!
The challenge here is there's no remedy
The guy in the replies of the quoted post shrieking about "popularity" is threatening to completely undo me.
That's the misogyny, dipshit! Hillary Clinton was a very popular senator and secretary of state but her popularity evaporated every single time she dared to ask for votes.
Women? Hell, it's illegal to suggest anyone is genuinely hateful of anything if they're not in the top 1%.
Good People, Bad Elites, baybee!
Oh we know they hate women. Especially women in charge. As for explaining the outcome of the 2016 election, nothing was disproven by the Biden Administration. Hasn’t anyone read the actual Mueller report? He stated he would have charged Trump with collusion, but you can’t charge a sitting President.
Both were absolutely terrible candidates that towed the establishment line. The only difference they offered was just being women. Nothing more. Perhaps, as a control, the dems could have tried running anyone besides the most center-right candidate on their bench. Their candidacies were a mistake
It's bad that the Dems stacked the deck for a historically unpopular candidate in 2016 and scared off an open primary. Also bad the Dems had to check a box with Harris in 2020 despite her not having any real base of support.
Both facts definitely informed be sexism but we gotta learn some lessons.
Because it remains our fault that we are so hateable.
the way i explained this to louise newman in 2017 was that i thought it was very simple: "Of course the least popular woman in the country would lose an election to the least popular man in the country. We'd be stupid not to see that coming"
Misogyny is 💯 the answer
We know Obama-Trump voters weren't really driven by economics, but I don't think it's that crazy to think someone might want faster wage growth then decide they didn't like higher prices once they get it. That probably does explain some of the suburban people who vote for Trump but don't like him.
America really does hate women. And it does a distressingly thorough job of proving it.
"if like 1-2% of the American public are misogynistic left-leaning swing voters, this is an almost entire explanation for the last three Presidential elections" is an uncomfortable truth
Disclaimer for the completely uninformed opinions of foreigners, but that was certainly the perception here in the UK after both 2016 and 2024 elections - the prevailing narrative I heard was ‘wow America REALLY hates women, they’ll vote ANYONE in to avoid a woman’
