man, I don't even know if they have a vision of a society. they just are so angry that other people had better lives for a tiny bit of time that they want to trash the whole thing. squat as kings of the garbage heap
Yeah, it's just people who get a charge out of having unaccountable power over others, knowing they can do stuff that pisses others off and they can't do anything back. A society run by sadists. There's very little real vision to most of these guys. And what vision there is, is distopian.
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crabs in a bucket
they don't know how to make or do anything good so they just drag everyone else back down into their shit