Teens calling Idaho's suicide hotline are being told they can't proceed with the conversation without parental consent. Many of the callers are then hanging up.
Idaho approved a strict parental consent law last year.
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Checking teen suicide rates in Idaho. Not good.
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🤦♀️🤦♀️Stupid beyond belief.
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I am sickened by this. How will our children be saved...?
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😢😡😢😡
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If minors felt comfortable enough to include parents in a conversation about thoughts of suicide, a majority wouldn’t need to call in the first place.
But the pro-life party is more concerned about control over providing life-saving care. Once again showing their lack of real concern for life
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🤬🤬🤬
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Idaho is fucked-up
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This is so sad
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Republicans are cruel murderers, part 322.
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The GOP has been a death cult for years, and now that they’re our rulers, they can industrialize it. It’s hard to hide death camps, but easy to hide dispersed dead children.
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There is so much of this where right wingers won’t accept that there are plenty of families where the parents are either part of the cause or are not parenting — and the kids need outside help.
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We need to make sure they have a national hotline or a hotline for other states that aren’t Neanderthal.
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That is shitty. Can’t now but want get into.
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Some children are abused by their parents & their younger callers could likely be in that demographic. Unbelievable.
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Did anyone involved in the passage of this law give it even the slightest bit of thought? Because if they did the only conclusion we can draw is that they are Pro-Teen Suicide.
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"in unintended ways"
Nope. It's working as intended, i.e., causing more suicides by forcing people to choose between going through with it or having to come out to their angry conservative parents about being LGBTQ and/or about having mental health crises.
MAGAt KKKult is all about eugenics.
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This is monstrous because, as usual, cruelty is the point. They're willing to hurt any kid just to be able find a way to punish LGBTQ+ kids. Calling such a service is possibly the last act of someone exercising self agency. Reaching out for help for themselves. And now that has been taken away.
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Holy shit this sucks. This is like needing parental permission for an sbortion but somehow many times worse
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Idaho did you stop to think children might be in danger from their parents! So you’ve left them no where to go for help!
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Why? Seriously, what is the possible risk that a teen calling a suicide hotline somehow could somehow go south if their parents aren't part of the conversation? That might be the most myopic, arbitrary example of stupidity of government overreach I have ever seen.
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they want ppl to have more kids but they want kids who are struggling to kill themselves
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Children are going to die. 🤬 Getting rid of us and subjugating the rest is the point behind this regime and project 2025
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Enjoy your dead kids, I guess, Idaho.
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Would be interesting to see the impact on teen suicide rate during the year the law was in place.
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Idiocy
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😤
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Way to go you dumb fucks who prefer a dead kid over a kid asking someone other than you for help, you dumb fucks. I guess you'll make more??
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Idaho has real smart people don't they? Completely defeats the purpose.
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That sounds stupid, let me guess which Party pushed this?
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Oh yeah. This is going to work. 🙄 /s
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Who could possibly foresee that kids contemplating suicide may not have a great relationship with their parents?
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Jesus wept.
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Because the parents are often the reason the kids are suicidal, and it's much more important to protect abusive parents, so they don't wind up being held accountable God forbid.
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Also unintended consequence of a broad law, I suspect
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As ye sow, so shall ye reap, idaho
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If they had a parent to talk to they would most likely not be calling that line. wtf are they supposed to do when the parents are the ones being the abusers?
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Literally the whole point of a hotline, for kids that don’t have a parent they trust to talk to.
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Cool, cool, I had forgotten what my own vomit tasted like.
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OK, so you're a suicidal teen, and you now have to tell your parents you're a suicidal teen before anyone is allowed to help you? Welcome to skyrocketing teen suicide rates in Idaho ...
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Does a state government really have the power to ban someone from talking to a teen who called them?
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Summer camp, but counsellors need to have parental consent before saving drowning kids.
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Idiotic if they could talk to their parents why would they need a hot line ffs what is the matter with you America you are totally fked up
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I think this could be part of the greater eugenics plan by the far right to remove all undesirables from society.
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wtf why didn’t the KID think of talking to the PARENT in the FIRST PLACE? Now the CRISIS/SUICIDE HOTLINE is a MEDIATOR????? Next thing you know they’ll be charging your ins(IF you have it) for “saving the day”. THIS is a CRISIS
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How do you tell the prostitute at a beauty contest?
Look for the girl with the sash that says Idaho~~
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That will be a death sentence for many many of those kids. And I thought Alabama was bad 🤷♂️ Congrats Idaho Republicans! 🖕
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If these ppl answering the phones are mental health professionals they need their licenses revoked b/c it is unethical to break confidentiality. Parents don’t own children, children have consent choices. Usually they are struggling b/c of a parent/guardian.
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Unfortunately any younger children are contemplating suicide, because of parents who aren’t supportive. So why would they ever agree to parental permission? Idaho hasn’t changes since I lived there in 1968.
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This stuff is important. Use. Fucking. Alt. Text.
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Those poor kids...
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Maybe because the problem is the parents, since there are no qualifications for becoming one.
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Why is everything so stupid and evil?
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What if, like myself, they want to kill themselves because of what a parent did to them? Fucking Idaho.
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Republican lawmakers need to be arrested if any of these children commits suicide. It’s no longer freedom of speech, they are actively trying to kill us
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Kids as young as FIVE call this line 🥺💔 …and the government made it extremely difficult for them to actually access help 😡 Why are these people so f*cking evil 😡
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Sounds like Idaho politicians prefer suicide to helping teens.
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Just unbelievable.
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wtf
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Why would anyone working there, seemingly trying to do good, obey this? Just talk to the kid!
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Fuck
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MAGA Nazism displays little interest in children, except as sexual prey.
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Call out of state numbers. That's insanity.
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Grotesque
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Cw: suicide
It’s very relevant to note that without proper accommodations and support it’s not uncommon for Autistic children to start having suicidal ideation at ages 8 and younger.
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For a suicide hotline? Imbeciles. ☹️
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Only reasonable conclusion: Idaho legislators WANT suicidal teens to kill themselves. 🤷♂️
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No that’s fine it’s not a TIME SENSITIVE situation or anything. It’s not like your parents could be the reason you want to kill yourself or anything. This is what wanting traditional authority looks like.
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Well that's a lot of fucking use, isn't it.
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This is dangerous policy.
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I just sat stunned and said "what" a couple times
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Imagine setting the tone on a suicide prevention hotline call with, "before we continue I'm going to have to make sure your mom and or dad are aware you want to kill yourself, dontcha know. Now how does that sound to you, ya little whipper snapper."
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America… where common sense goes to die.
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And I thought MY state was ass…still is, but Jfc Idaho.
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📌
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Can't wait to have this extended to the Poison Control hotline.
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When kids start killing themselves because the government is stupid, parents will only have themselves to blame for electing these idiots in the first place. I feel bad for these kids!
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This is beyond idiotic. It's vile.
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So, your step-father is raping you, and your mother is looking the other way. Or your parents can't handle you being gay. Or you simply can't live up to your parents standards. So you are suicidal. And to get the help you would need, you need to go through your parents. Which seals the deal. No?
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This is terrible
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Kids are going to die.
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This is both heartbreaking and infuriating. I was a suicidal 12-year old being terrorized by a drunken, physically and emotionally abusive mother. She would have knocked me through a wall if she thought I told on her.
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When kids start committing suicide left and right and won't talk to anyone..they will wonder why..?
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Like 60% of the time...it's the parents making them feel that way.
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Yea I’m sure that law will save a lot of lives!🤬
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It is no surprise that legislators have no ability to consider the unintended consequences of an idiotic law.
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If any teen needs a 'parent' to consent, they can use me as their parent. I care more about kids I don't even know than a lot of these kids' biological parents. Half the time, it's the parents causing their kids trauma.
Or better yet, let's form a hotline kids can use instead of this one.
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If I were to have called that line it was a large part because of my parents.
Republicans are so scared kids might learn being gay or similar is normal they prefer the kids kill themselves than seek help from professionals.
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Idiots. I hope these poor kids survive.
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This is a fucking TERRIBLE policy. As someone who hanged himself in 2010 im speaking from an unfortunate amount of experience. It's obviously not a secret, but as far as i know my dad still doesn't know and id STILL rather he never find out if he doesn't.
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If their kids got any more protected they would get shot in schools and die from measles.
What is wrong with these ppl yall?
I’m so glad I’m not a Christian. It would be horrible to have to be this cruel in the name of JESUS
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The law is working as intended.
Children are property, not people. That's the conservative world. Parents get to decide what to do with their property, no one else. Especially not the property itself.
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And I wouldn’t be surprised if a certain church had something to do with this law.
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This is horrible, even worse than not getting help, this might get them to turn to ChatGPT or another AI that may encourage them to hurt themselves. I don't see how the intent would be anything other than to increase teenage suicide in Idaho.
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How horrible. We will need to track Idahos suicide rate.
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So they are actively not saving lives
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Just ignore the rules. Do the right thing and deny you did the right thing.
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Sometimes it's because parents are the problem and the reason why they need help. What a shit law by people who do not know how to listen and understand nothing about the dynamics of children in crisis.
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Damn idiots!
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WTH? They will cause the suicide of some teens due to this thoughtless policy. Do they have alternatives?
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Big Brother is in town
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The teens can dial canada’s for free
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This is the same state with a notoriously fascist/white supremacist northern panhandle so this does not surprise me
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Ghostly ballplayer walking out of the cornfield: "Is this Hell?" Idahoan: "No. It's Idaho."
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Asking ChatGPT to "be" their parent and give consent via a really good voice generator would be an ethical use of AI.
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Details on mindset
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Given a history of physical/sexual abuse, or exposure to violence are common causes of suicidal ideation in children and youth (abuse & violence frequently a result of parental actions), this is the silliest thing I have read in ages On a par with all of RFK Jr’s eugenicist antics at the CDC
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What the everloving **** was Idaho thinking that somebody would want their parents involved in their ANONYMOUS conversations considering suicide???
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NEVER call these stupid as hotlines. They are useless af. Even without the parent permission. Better off using AI.
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There is another hotline that I wish they are sharing. That's being run by Canadians
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How many kids are going to die because of this?
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What if the 'parents' are the problem?
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State Idiocracy…
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The Nazis want gay / trans people to die and they more than happy to kill anyone else who gets in their way.
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How often is it that the parents are the trigger? What ignorance.
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I thought that was the whole point of a hotline? Bc you don't have anyone you turn to, you call the hotline. Some people are just beyond stupid.
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I feel like Everytime parental consent comes up for cases like this it's from the most shortsighted people ever.
If a teen is willing to call a suicide hotline would you not think they either haven't attempted talking to their parents or understand that is an unsafe thing to do?
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A parent's rights derive from their duty to protect and nurture their child - not from dominion over the child's life.
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this is some sick shit
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Then what is the point?
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Kindergarteners and grade schoolers are calling in? Even adding into the factor of troll/prank phone calls, this seems to demonstrate a serious mental health crisis Idaho cannot or will not address adequately (gotta get parental consent first).
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good lord
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If need help in Idaho, lie about your age.
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Welp, there it is. The stupidest fucking thing I think I'll read on the Internet this month. It's unthinkabley dumb & absolutely on brand.
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Perhaps the parent is the problem?
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Yet another example of how evil republicans are....
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They could call me. I wouldn't hang up on them. 😪
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"Providers do not need parental consent if...furnishing the health care service is necessary to prevent death or imminent, irreparable physical injury to the minor child.” "
So, SUICIDE HOTLINES...no excuse for denying this without consent then.
It's imminent risk of death. That's what suicide is.
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Spectacular…. LY STUPID, since my parents were the number one driver of my suicidality as a child/teen (yeah, I wanted to be d3ad definitely from the age of 8 on, possibly sooner).
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They obviously hope "troubled" teens will do themselves in.
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'Between the ages of FIVE AND SEVENTEEN!!!!'. My heart is 💔
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The stupidity of these voters is mind boggling
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Sad, cause parents could be their reason.
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😒😡
Sometimes I really loathe people.
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Wow!
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The most evil part of this is, Kids wouldn't feel so trapped and hopeless if they didn't live in an Actual, Factual, Photo-realistic, Capitalist Oligarchy.
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A 5 year old. A child that is in kindergarten called the suicide hotline. This tells me that a child who has only been on this planet for 5 years has suffered immense trauma and was asking for help, but they were told "no" by adults. This country is fucking disgusting
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Chances are if they're calling the hotline before talking to their parents then the parents are part of the problem.
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That is the dumbest law I have seen in a while.
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Bruh I'm so fucking tired of this country
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So you need parental permission to not kill yourself?
Republicans want your children dead ASAP and are doing everything they can to make it happen.
It remains to be seen how long a political party predicated on doing mortal and material harm to their constituents can remain viable.
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Children as young as 5 years old were calling this hotline. Which party is the “pro-life” one again?
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The conservatives won't care, even if it's their own child. MAGA parents will just get upset at the awkwardness and embarassment they'll feel over the cause of death, then just blame their dead kid for everything and move on.
Feeling sorrow and guilt are what human parents would experience.
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This one hits hard. Those kids are asking for help.
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Seems kinda evil there, Idaho...
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Call 9-8-8 the canadian hotline number!!!
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Call the Canadian hotline!!!
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If these teens calling the suicide hotline felt like they could talk to their parents about what they were going through they wouldn't need to call the suicide hotline
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"Suicidal ideation is just something that happens at that age. It's really unreasonable to mention it to people" -- Actual earnest quote from a parent who honestly believes they love their daughter who also, somehow, cannot understand why she stopped telling them stuff.
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Red state madness.
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Oh, don’t worry: Idaho also banned abortion, so they’ll just force people to make more kids to replace the ones who couldn’t hack it.
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Gee, you'd think this was entirely predictable or something. Like, if they felt they could talk to their parents, then maybe they wouldn't be calling a suicide prevention line...
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Parental consent for a suicide prevention hotline is about as Republican as one can get.
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If the teens felt like they could talk to their parents they would not be calling in the first place. They hung up because they aren't getting the help they need
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Who benefits from this parental consent law? Not the teens who call the hotline.
That should be all that anyone needs to know to in order to start figuring out how to get rid of it.
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waiting for a parent to sue the shit out of everyone involved.
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Five??? JFC 😭😭😭
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This is fucking ridiculous.
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I warned about this regarding recent online legislation, but nobody listened.
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This is what happens when you vote Christo-fascists into office. Such a beautiful state and such a fucked up government. Shame.
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WHAT A CROCK OF SHIT..!! These poor kids can’t get any help if their parents are assholes. What a bunch of B U L L S H I T . . ! ! 😡🤬😡🤬😡🤬😡🤬😡
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FIVE?! That is so very, very sad & disturbing.
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That kind of defeats the whole purpose of a suicide, prevention hotline.
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Stupid beyond belief. This requirement will lead to the death of young people.
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“Excuse me whilst I go ask my abuser to give permission for me to discuss why their abuse is making me suicidal.” Absolute bastards.
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😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭 Can you imagine how much courage and despair it took for those kids to make that call in the first place? Only to be told: "sorry to get your hopes up, but..."
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And they call themselves "pro-life"?...
Those children are screaming for help, cuz they do not have it. This is murdered. They are murdering children. Or at least, pushing them to suicide, which is once again, a kind of murder.
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These fucking people......
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In the right-wing mind, children are property.
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5 year olds.
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no one in idaho has ever been a teen
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How morally absent do you have to be to think 'hey if a kid is thinking about killing themselves, they should get parental consent before they fight for their own life'
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I'm glad they put the faces of the disgusting cretins responsible for this legislation in the article. May those children's deaths haunt them forever.
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that’s awful. the kids’ parents are probably the reason they’re having crises.
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Absolutely insane. Kids who want to (feel comfortable, etc) talk to their parents don’t call the hotline. The hotline is for people who do not feel comfortable talking to somebody else. Does this really need to be spelled out for god sakes? These people are stupid beyond belief
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Some Idaho legislator: There's a reduction of calls and time with the Idaho Suicide Hotline allowing for a reduction of public funding.
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How does this make any sense?!
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#BlameRepublicans
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I have always been amazed how the republican party hates children and teenagers.
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Not only tragic for the teens seeking help. But also for the hotline workers who can’t throw a lifeline to a drowning young person. They will be devastated by these memories.
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they're not going to care until people start breaking shit.
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So, is one of the questions they ask minors, do you have your parents' permission to commit suicide?
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Next up: Kids can no longer discuss the sexual violence their parents are committing against them unless said parents are present? Jfc these people.
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WTF, ID?
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WOW!
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People answering the suicide hot lines do NOT have to capitulate to this law.
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Are you KIDDING?????
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FFS, #Idaho, DO BETTER
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So how have the suicide numbers been trending for that age group?
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Once again endangering children that they swear they are protecting... This is horrible!
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It's shocking how many grown adults in the world don't understand life or refuse to acknowledge basic humanity. Fuckers
