the USA built a system of higher education so good that smart/rich people from across the world came here, spending billions to learn here, subsidizing education for Americans while spending money to live in our cities and towns. our government arbitrarily decided we should stop doing that

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  1. Trump is creating Putin's dream of making USA a third world country with no strong allies and breaking it into pieces

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  2. If Harvard (or Yale or princeton or any other elite school) only graduates the best students of the United States, they will no longer be the gold standard of the world, regardless of what American exceptionalism tells us.

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  3. The only thing Project 2025 and the Republican Party did about anything that bolsters American prosperity, global role, and flourishing of people in the USA was destroy it. For no purpose. Every plank--innovation, knowledge, healthcare, education, influence--they HATE that thing. That's all it was.

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  4. And now these fools have bought into the latest "suffering is actually good" nonsense that they are probably seeing the same stories but are cheering.

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  5. Not only that but who fills the vacuum? China or Europe. And we're not replacing those incredibly smart students with Americans - at least not from the MAGA crowd.

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  6. In New York, North Carolina, the largest single employer is the public uni system. In New York, our colleges are in the places that need jobs the most. Just a massive policy success we’ve chosen to throw away.

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  7. Why are Dems doing ANYTHING for the party that did this? How is being bipartisan with the people who did this a good thing?

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  8. This doesn't even include the huge chunk of GDP directly attributable to those students once they graduate and get jobs in America

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  9. We didn't get value for the "subsidy". It wasn't a subsidy, some large institutions amassed large endowments, invested in property development often displacing residents who's children would never attend those schools. So when Trump came for them, they had less public support than they should have.

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  10. And destroyed the pipeline for innovation. Other countries will surpass us in innovation and reap the long-term economic benefits. This is not “just four years” this is kneecapping US growth for decades

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  11. It’s ok to say “in a fever dream of racism” instead of calling it arbitrary

    Pretending we don’t know why is helping give them cover

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  12. We are increasing debt like crazy like last time. So fiscally responsibility like a drunken sailer on steroids!

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  13. Vance said universities are the enemy and that’s true. Critical thinking and an educated population are enemies of fascists and autocrats. They seek to usher in a new Dark Age where rich tech bros have their own kingdom where they rule over uneducated poverty stricken serfs.

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  14. Is a white supremacist the top dog in the empire of dirt? That's all they care about. They don't care if the money and prestige and international power disappears, they are removing challenges to their rule at home and they will destroy everything else to keep it.

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  15. republicans are ok with turning america into a giant backwater shithole if it means less brown people

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  16. In Trump’s view, if this reduces the riches and prestige of universities, then it is good. If in the long run it reduces America, so be it. Trump doesn’t have much of a long game.

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  17. I keep waiting for private industry to start freaking out about the destruction of higher education. Business is inarguably the number one biggest beneficiary of this system.

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  18. “Our government” is doing heavy lifting there. It’s been specific administrations, and especially the insane fascists currently occupying our government systems.

    Assigning blame to “government” in generic terms is part of the reason we have so many anti-gov people who don’t understand government.

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  19. But now a bunch of mediocre white failsons can get overpaid jobs they don't really qualify for. Which was always the point.

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  20. All you good people- if you have not yet, please join your local Indivisible or other grassroots organization and find ways to push back.

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  21. With all that is going on and a dictatorship taking place right before our eyes, why would anyone want to risk coming for education. Another shot in the foot. Candidates make connections and take American business practices home. Who would want that anyway?

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  22. This plan was promoted by not your government, but capitalists who support the Heritage Foundation and the like and who want less people in the USA and in the world to access knowledge about how society works. I know you can see through the thin veil of liberal democracy. Just follow the money! ;-)

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  23. Good point. International students usually pay the full "sticker price" for tuition. Without that revenue, universities that have already seen funding cuts from states will be in an even tighter financial situation. That would likely translate to higher tution costs for all other students.

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  24. A lot of replies to this assume that arbitrary means “by chance” when it also (and originally) means “by an act of individual preference as opposed to legal or rational necessity.” An example of something a university might teach you.

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  25. “…could see”? Projection. I’ll wait for the numbers to come in. Actually wouldn’t more people applying cause college prices to increase and also limit the number of open seats for our home grown young people? INFLATION: to many dollars chasing too few goods.

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  26. More accurately, REPUBLICANS arbitrarily decided we should stop doing that. It's not government, it's REPUBLICANS. It's important to be specific because there are actual people responsible.

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  27. I live near the Carnegie museums, and the campuses of Carnegie Mellon and the University of Pittsburgh. Between slashed research & humanities funding and the loss of international students, the universities and local economy are in for a world of hurt.

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  28. I'm not in favor of universities subsidizing themselves with rich kids from overseas, who then go home after training, to compete with us. Sorry, it's a really bad model. Gotta figure out other ways to make college affordable.

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  29. Agree with everything but the arbitrarily part. And I only reply because I think it’s important we connect everything to the larger plan to isolate us from the world. The destruction of any established powers that could threaten or fight back IS the authoritarian agenda of this administration.

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  30. I believe the all-out war on education began with intrinsic racism & bigotry of the U.S. & grew to include the realization that any/all intellectualism presents the single greatest mortal threat to consolidated power. While not at all surprising, it's incredibly sad to see it all being decimated.

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  31. They want us dumber and poorer, so we’re easier to dominate as they consolidate their wealth and power at the country’s expense.

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  32. Not to mention just a less valuable education for students. If you domt see added value in having people from all over the world in your classes....you probably went to a homogeneous school.

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  33. Look, anyone can let an empire slowly crumble the way empires throughout history have done. But our very special boys with billions and the politicians they own have decided that fail fast is the way to go, and by golly the failure is fast and furiousAF!

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