When you share this image, you are blindly repeating one of the most unapologetic, vile pieces of transphobia ever uttered on television. Spitting on Brandon Teena's grave for Internet points. I'm posting this because I still see it randomly posted without any context.

Comedian Norm Macdonald on Saturday Night Live saying, "Now this might strike some viewers as harsh, but I believe everyone involved in this story should die."The New York City Menace's statement to Norm Macdonald dated February 27, 1996. It details Brandon Teena's tortuous rape and murder and forcefully condemns Norm for his hateful words on Saturday Night Live.

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  1. Also Good Omens is entirely the creation of Terry Pratchett, nobody else was involved in any way at all, the man's incredible talent produced the entire thing, zero collaboration.

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  2. People tend to forget that Norm McDonald was a genuine piece of shit

    Like I get a lot of comedians were friends with him, but like, he was genuinely a bad person

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  3. Holy shit I never knew this, that's fucking abhorrent. Thank you for sharing this and bringing attention to it.

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    thanks for sharing this. don’t think i’ve run into the screenshot in the wild fortunately, but that’s insanely fucked up and norm should have done better

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  5. I know lots of ppl loved Norm and his approach to comedy especially by 80s/90s standards, but a LOT of his early work definitely hasn’t aged well at all 😬

    I can’t help but think if he were still alive, he’d probably be a part of the anti-woke boomer comedian circle like Chappelle and Seinfeld

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  6. Jim Downy was head writer for Weekend Update during the Norm era. He deserves some guilt for this horseshit too. (As does Lorne for letting it air.)

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  7. They've since apologized for it, but back then even guys like Patton Oswalt and Jon Stewart said some foul transphobic shit. Despite there being evidence to the contrary there was still a lot of belief that it was just a weird kink and nothing more.

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  8. Crikey. I’ve seen this meme a lot yet this is the first time I’ve seen the context behind it.

    May Brandon’s memory be an eternal blessing.

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  9. I recently saw an old Norm MacDonald Weekend Update segment about a trans woman fighting for custody of her kids and I won’t repeat the joke but it was horrifying.

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  10. I haven't seen that meme before, nor the story associated. I read it as meaning the opposite, that Norm McDonald thought the rapist/murderers should be erased. The only person who did not deserve punishment was already dead, along with being one person and not "everyone." I might be wrong though.

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  11. Same with the gif of Jordan Peele sweating profusely. It's from a K&P sketch wherein his girlfriend found his porn collection and he's so horrified she'll learn he enjoys trans porn that he'd rather admit to more heinous things just to deflect her suspicion.

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  12. I had not heard this story before, and like so many things it's both infuriating and heartbreaking at the same time.. i fear stories like this will become increasingly common in the near future.

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  13. I embarrassingly learned this only a couple years ago. One of my friends was kind enough to gently give me the context for it. When that aired, I was a teenager and my parents didn’t let me watch SNL.

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  14. First Norm, then Rob Schneider, now David Spade and Dana Carvey are mocking and misgendering Laura Jane Grace on their podcast.... Did the casting call for that era of SNL say "Horrible bigots only" on it?

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  15. This is why I tell people that nostalgia for the 80's and 90's is dangerous and wrong-headed.

    That time was really racist and homophobic, not so loudly transphobic, because trans folks were almost entirely in the closet. But when they did make the news, this was the response.

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  16. In the 90s, all queer things were still closely (and obviously falsely) equated with pedophilia. So there were lots of people who put them on the same level as pedophiles and regularly considered their "deviancy" as deserving of death. Not that that attitude has ebbed much.

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  17. I am fortunate to have never encountered its usage.

    I must admit I only skimmed that text. It is too deeply painful for me right now. The fact that many people would kill me just for existing is upsetting.. worst of all because I cannot understand how anyone has that kind of hate, for anything.

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  18. Thank you. I never knew that, and because I’ve enjoyed so much of his work over the years I really want to believe neither did he. But knowing the little I do about his personal beliefs, I think there’s a chance he may have. 😐

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