Incidentally this is about a verbatim replication of the conversation my spouse had with his conservative homeschooling sister. She avowed facts are unknowable, information is unfindable, we cannot know anything. It's not an age of disinformation; it's an age of no information.
Warner: "Do you accept the fact that a million Americans died from COVID?”
RFK Jr. "I don't know how many died.”
Warner: “You're the Secretary of Health and Human Services. You don't have any idea how many Americans died from COVID?”
RFK Jr: “I don't think anybody knows.”