What is it called when government owns the means of production again?
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In reality, it was mostly state capitalism, which is probably exactly what Trump is aiming at with moves like this.
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WHY would we want to?
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"Trump's fee."
What do I win?
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MAGA is so obtuse.
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Fascism. That is fascism.
Workers owning it is socialism.
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The russians said it decades ago: we will take the United States without firing a single shot. They just fired some shit, and here we are.
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😠
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Well, in a normal world that would be called communism. However in this instance it’s called Trump’s. Yup, it’s his. I’m sure that’s what he thinks.
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Socialised services, where taxes pay for things like healthcare and education: socialist government, where the state runs the means of production.
People get those mixed up, hey.
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Imagine if the ‘radical’ left announced this.
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The road yo fascism is paved with liberals squawking "this is communism"
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Not you too ametica is so fucking screwed
A stake of a private company is capitalism merging of state and corporate power is fascism
And it's not government ownership its public ownership
Using that language is part of the reason people are incapable of understanding what socialism is
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dangerous for the people
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OOH! OOH! Pick me! Pick me! I know this one! It's COMMUNISM! Eyup.
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But let's fight potential "socialism" of Mamdani - SMH
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FASCISM !
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Wonder if the money is going to trump someway.
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Socialism
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State capitalism where the state is the main monopolist.
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Kinda’ sounds illegal
Or is that just me!
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Geezus. No one is aware that govt owning the means of production is ….socialism
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Could it be … COMMUNISM?! https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Communism
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I'm so glad he's doing all the things lefties have wanted the government to do for decades. This way we can justify nationalizing EVERYTHING in 2029.
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Grasping reality where is the money going? Who’s overseeing the money? Which branch has control over the money? No framework in place is alarming to me. If it’s the people’s money I want the people to say where it goes. This isn’t for the people it an opportunity for the president. Trust issues much
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Aaah, so now we know why they were so anxious to remove all those slavery exhibits. Cotton picking metamorphoses into chip assembling, but the song remains the same.
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It is grossly negligent to call this communism. The anti-leftist propaganda on this platform, and in the liberal mind, is such an insane barrier to progress. Y’all are stuck in an unchanging mediocrity that is anti- intellectual at its root. Go read the manifesto dummies, because this ain’t it.
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Communism
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No, this is not govt owning means of production. State ownership of shares in Intel and NVIDA kickbacks compromises their regulation of these industries. It is neither communism or socialism. The govt is enriching itself, nothing will be returned to the people.
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Is the working class in control of the government, George?
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Socialism
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10% stake in a company that is floundering? This is just bad business - aka classic Trump.
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So, our great dealer in chief has purchased 10% of a company worth 109B after our purchase for 11B Great deal taco trump, an average deal maker could have gotten this for 10.9B, a great deal maker for 10B. All in a company that is a little bit on the risky side.
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The answer is communism. #PutinsBitch
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Exactly!
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Another blackmail/quid pro quo Trump deal of little to no benefit to America nor Americans.
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No more intel products in my house after this. Enough.
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Taxpayers are going to end up hurting on this boondoggle.
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A Disaster
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Why would I want to use state controlled technology that is most likely going to be used to illegally gather information from people.
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Not for the government. For Donald.
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I need more explanation please.
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Socialism?
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Trump is such a Commie Pinko/Socialist Libtard!
Who knew?
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Socialism
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Trump is a communist!
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Bye bye Intel
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Socialism my dear, Socialism.
“That unspeakable ill that Americans are taught to fear”. -
Trumpism
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It’s on the top of my tongue!!
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It looks like double taxation. Another Constitutional violation.
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👍
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Think I'll make sure my next laptop has an AMD CPU.
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Just like Huawai.
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Crime Syndicate running US Government. No Justice
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Communism is where the workers own the means of production. What Trump is doing is extortion.
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This isn’t the only example of Trump communism. In the Soviet Union, unqualified people were promoted to positions of authority based only on their loyalty to the party. This is one example of how the ussr ultimately failed. Yet here we are an no one is taking about it or making the connections.
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www.reuters.com/world/us/us-...
US Senator Sanders favors Trump plan to take stake in Intel and other chipmakers
Liberal U.S. Senator Bernie Sanders on Wednesday threw his support behind President Donald Trump's plan to convert U.S. grants to chipmakers, including $10.9 billion for Intel, into government stakes in the companies.
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Communism? In fascism, things tend to be privately owned though. Not sure about part-ownership.
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No surprise given Trump’s slavish devotion to Stalinist Vladamir Putin, Trump will go Stalinist himself.
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He's lying and claiming credit for Biden's bill, George. The billions will come from previously awarded but unpaid government grants to Intel, which were originally part of the Biden-era CHIPS Act.
Intel got $7.865 billion, supporting semiconductor fabrication and advanced packaging projects.
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That isn't SOCIALIST, socialist. It's reverse-Libertarian!
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He’s also lying. It did NOT cost the taxpayers 0 dollars. We already invested 2 billion or more & he used $8.9 billion in previously allocated federal funding as leverage to extort the 10% interest. I have a hard time believing he didn’t get a himself & his billionaire friends some side deals.
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Does that mean they'll understand that as an importer of materials from other countries they'll be paying the tariffs and not the exporter?
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Communism isn't it? 🤔
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First, can you imagine the media reaction if Obama or Biden even thought about doing this? Then realize this is like everything he does all show and no dough.
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Russia
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How much of the profit goes to Trump and his family?
They've already raked in billions$ at the expense of citizens since he's POTUS.
Forbes (2025): Trump’s net worth doubled in just one year, from $2.3B → $5.1B
Bloomberg: The Trump family’s wealth has more than doubled since 2017, to ~$5.4B 👇How President Donald Trump More Than Doubled His Fortune In One Year
Trump came one ruling away from losing control of his empire. Some counted him out, but his supporters hung on, supplying votes and money needed for a historic comeback.
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Do we now BOYCOTT Intel?
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Bezos and Zuck, time to pony up your 10% soon!
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Fascism blends private enterprise with strong state control, prioritizing national interest and often enforcing a rigid social hierarchy. Socialism advocates for social ownership of the means of production to promote economic equality and collective well-being.
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Socialism....
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CLASSIC SOCIALISM!!!!!!
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This seems more communist than anything the left has ever done.
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🤣😂 like republicans care.
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Oh! I know this! It starts with a C... Com... Commu-something.
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COMMUNISM , folks, that's what it's called AND IS!! THE ENEMY OF ALL OF US, except 47 and the ignoramuses who live his butt!! Pay attention, please. Thank you!
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Once upon a time, the US became Russia's 51 state.
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He probably means that he himself owns the shares. So that's capitalism.
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Sounds most like fascist capitalism under Mussolini.
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State-run capitalism, George, aka corporatism. It tends to go hand-in-hand with fascism.
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Hey Trump, Will that $11 billion pay down any of $8 trillion in debt that we the people have to pay that you’ve spent during your 4 1/2 years as president of the U.S.
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That would be textbook Communism.
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Marxism
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With the PedoFührer, his minions, and his supporters, every accusation is a confession. Every single one.
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Communism anyone? The Felon is learning so much from his Dick-Tater pal.
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Intel has just bought peace of mind for $11bn..
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I am confused. He is both fascist and communist. I guess he decided to embrace both extremisms.
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I notice he’s dropped the capitals. Mostly.
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Fascism
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What the hell is with the “thank you for your attention to this matter”? Did he just learn the sentence and thinks it makes him sounds important? It makes him more rediculois
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Everything he touches does, so there’s that.
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Equality.
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Deutsche Bahn or Deutsche Post or Telekom.
While I do highly appreciate you and your insights George, this time (and as far as I know only this time) you are dead wrong about the 🍊💩.
For a change, he once managed to do the right thing by accident and secure strategic assets for the US.
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Criminal shakedown
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It is called RELEASE THE EPSTEIN FILES YOU PEDOPHILE!
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Donald Trump has nothing against communism, if he is the supreme leader. No one else matters.
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The Trump seems to be a classic mercantilist. So I guess Presidential economic theory is a century or so before the voyage of the Mayflower, and a few centuries before those bearded gents who developed dialectical materialism
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But affordable healthcare is socialist. I get it.
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Bankruptcy?
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From the rights own definitions,
Trump is acting like the nazis.
wallbuilders.com/resource/the...
The Nazis Really Were Socialists - WallBuilders
Recently in the mainstream media the words “Nazi” and “Hitler” are perhaps two of the most commonly used words employed by pundits and even politicians...
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It turns out - from 10 minutes of intense Googling - that "nobody knows." 😄 I assume that you were suggesting that it's communism, Marxism or socialism (and I assumed that that was true) but I can't find a source that clearly and unequivocally agrees. That said, Trump is the least reliable source. 😁
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Well, Mussolini said that Fascism should be called corporatism. So I guess my questions as an answer are, own how, and for whom?
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Why do I feel like this only the first purchase? What’s next?
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Isn't this what China does?
Kind of like black mailing a company to be complicit.
I just wonder how many shares got dumped into donald's pocket?
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Here is the presser: www.intc.com/news-events/...
Intel and Trump Administration Reach Historic Agreement to Accelerate American Technology and Manufacturing Leadership
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The Trump chip's AI is massively hallucinatory.
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- You can't win any shareholder votes with 10%;
- How does this dilute shares of INTC?
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It means the government knows that it's base of support is so intellectually incompetent that it can do whatever you wants, even it means contradicting all the tenants their support group claimed to hold dear.
In short, our government is fueled by ignorance, avarice and malevolence.
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State-controlled technology is generally implemented for security purposes—such as preventing terrorism and serious crimes—by enabling real-time data collection and analysis.
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Sosherlizem…
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F-f-f-f-fascism or communism- depending on how you interpret the news.
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HE paid nothing. Let’s do the math.
WE paid for it.
Taxpayer Funding - $11.1B
$2.2B via the 2022 CHIPS and Science Act
- $5.7B from CHIPS they hadn’t received,
- $3.2B in funds already awarded as part of the Secure Enclave national security program, the company announced on its website.
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THIS IS NOT HOW OUR COUNTRY IS SUPPOSED TO OPERATE!!!
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Isn't that communism? Funny, all those stupid fucking MAGAts call is commies... How do they manage to breed?!?!?
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Paying tribute to a fascist government is being conflated with socialism. Where do you people learn about politics?
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Incredible future, as in "It's incredible that Intel is going bankrupt"?
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"Conservatives" & one particular "Conservative" think tank paved the road to destroy the very premise of the United States Government advanced by founders imbued with ideals of the enlightenment. What irony that a movement dubbed "conservative" will destroy convention & stability to wield power.
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😂
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Karl Marx would be proud.
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State controlled capitalism. Communism would be the workers owning the factories.
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The Diddler in Chief, never met a lie he doesn’t like. Spends more time hiding his Cankles than helping the middle class.
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That’s way over their heads.
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I wonder how much his family business made off the kickback . . .
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Yet another reason not to buy Intel
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Hmm? Socialism maybe? Political theory is not a continuum from right to left, if you go far either direction you wrap back around to authoritarian dictatorship.
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Trump is human garbage. How many of the shares is he keeping for himself? Who is following where the shares go?
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Socialism the terrible thing that dragged your nation out of a depression and beat the Fucken Nazis.
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In Russia, Stalin did it for years.
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🇺🇲🏳️🌈🇺🇲🏳️⚧️🇺🇲🇺🇦🇺🇲🇵🇸🇺🇲
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They usually say communism. But "The United States paid nothing for these Shares, and the Shares are now valued at approximately $11 Billion Dollars.", which is taking without compensation. Like any totalitarian government. Was the alternative a cage in El Salvador for the CEO ?
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Then Norway and Saudis must be the most socialist countries, as state owned funds and companies hold a lot (1,8 trillion and 2,5 trillion worth respectively) means of production.
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Is it not concerning that he doesn't understand the concept of 'fully'?
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Does the GOP have any line at all? They could stop this at any time
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It’s called fascism.
Just look at what Hitler & Mussolini did
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Authoritarian government taking over businesses and destroying mom and pop shops. The fox is in the hen house. . . . and he brought his friends.
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George you are the best 😹
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LOLOLOLOLOL
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Who is writing these tweets for Bozo? Any unified paragraph, with complete sentences, standard spelling, and "big" words is not Trump's. Steven Miller, perhaps?
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Yeah, I think I remember it now.
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Free Capitalism is Dead.
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Isn't it funny how GQP & MAGA always calls the Liberals and Progressives "Communists" and how terrible we are but now they are promoting and sponsoring a "Communist" regime? Full Frontal Hypocrisy!!
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Truth socialism.
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In this case, fascism, or corporatism. The alliance of the government and corporate executive classes for the enrichment of a few, rather than the union of workers and civil servants for the benefit of all.
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This isn't that.
US Senator Bernie Sanders backs Trump plan for government stake in Intel
The new stake in the tech giant aims to increase US semiconductor chip production.
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It's called state capitalism. Absolutely not to be confused with socialism, where the workers own the means of production.
Makes me think, perhaps the poor sods who actually have to buy what the workers make could do with a stint owning the means of production?
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Its socialism, of the national sort
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It’s now “chairman Don”
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"The workers control the means of production"
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Communism bad, unless the Government is doing it.
Just like Government welfare payments are bad, unless being paid to corporate America.
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Soon : "CPU's design are WOKE ! I will design the next one MYSELF ! It will be a beautifull "
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Alarms are going off every day. No one is listening.
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Probably just as good a deal as the rest, not worth the paper it's written on.
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“The United States paid nothing for this…” - sounds like extortion.
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Isn’t extortion illegal? If anyone else did it they would be in jail.
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Communism!
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COMMUNISM.
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The new Presidential Seal.
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Socialism
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The Chinese Communist Party
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State owned businesses. Isn’t that socialism/communism?
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Are we really going to follow Orban’s Hungary down the authoritarian and economic toilet?
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It is a defining feature of communism
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It’s called communism
The irony though after they have called us communists for years and now this
You can’t make this up
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Kudlow or someone called it "reverse privatization", lol. They just can't bring themselves to call it what it is.
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I don't think any country has a system of govt with a kleptomaniac rapist exerting fascist control in a communist manner. He's an anomaly and so is his thieving criminal in your face style of corruption. It's not even feaux governance. It's straight up highway robbery. He's just a thief
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They think "socialism" means nobody has any private possessions and even your body is owned by the government. They don't understand what it really means and that when you are in the military your body is government property already.
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State-Owned Enterprise
Or, since it was at the point of a metaphorical gun, half the plot of Atlas Shrugged.
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The US government should be taking deals like this all the time. If the government is going to bail out any private business, they should do so in exchange for partial ownership.
Anyway, Trump is a broken clock and all that.
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for everyone who thinks the answer is socialism: socialism is when the WORKERS own the means of production. this is just state capitalism.
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The party of small government is now the party of big government
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Not there yet, the more specific problem is the mixed messaging - the Fulton County Jail inmate P01135809 claims nothing was paid (and no money has changed hands … yet) but the CEO is set to meet him. Buying access. Grants were used to make the buy, they just haven’t been paid out … yet.
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"Commerce Secretary Howard Lutnick said on Friday that the U.S. government has taken a 10% stake in embattled chipmaker Intel, the Trump administration’s latest effort to exert control over corporate America."
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... S O C I A L I S M...... by extortion
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It starts with 'C' and ends with 'ommunism'
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So basically america is now all the "best" of fashism and comunism? What hitler and stalin didn't make happen it takes just one orange turd to do in america. Congrats!
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C✨O✨M✨M✨U✨N✨I✨S✨M
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MARXISM
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Communism
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George, your question implies an answer in the area of socialism or communism, but what Trump is doing is basically fascism. I’d love it if you could ask a question more relevant to the text.
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Democrats should be congratulating him on becoming a Communist, just to watch His head explode...
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Fascism.
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I believe that's Mussolini's own definition of "fascism".
Also how is it not a violation of anti-trust laws for the gov't to back one US chip-maker (Intel) and not the others (AMD, TI, etc.)?
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The news release from Intel puts a very different spin on this. Mostly a conversion of grants already approved in the CHIPS act of 2022 .
Intel said that the U.S. government won't have a board seat or other governance rights.
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We did not see this coming 🤣
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George, hmm, socialism much? Thank you!
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What does it mean when traitor Trump surrenders the electric car and charger leadership to China by trying to destroy jobs Biden built in America. We could have been champs instead of chumps.
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Trump = Stalin + Hitler
