Never forget their plan was always to supplant Donald Trump with J.D. Vance. Now that Trump is wounded and more trouble than he is worth they will start to act on that plan. Look for rumblings about Trump's mental health.

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  1. Doubtful. Vance could not pull off half of what trump is doing and would cause more backlash against their plans. I'd fully expect congressional Rs to pull off a 'weekend at bernies' type stuff

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  2. When people say ā€˜Vance won’t be any better than Trump’ well yes, he too is garbage but he doesn’t have the zombie cult following that Trump has. If we Dems can’t gain the majority in the house and senate to oust orange julius at least Vance won’t have the Republicans devotion.

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  3. I agree with your assessment,however, JD is so universally disliked, even by Maga, I don't seem him carrying the banner for Trumpism, without Trump I think the movement will fracture. I will keep my eyes & ears open for any movement in that direction.

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  4. I don’t know man. Vance does not have the gravitas to hold the party together. I just don’t agree with this one.

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  5. Trump is adept at one thing, salesmanship and just plain flimflam. He has always been the messenger for the architects of 2025. Vance is just not likable and would fail as a leader.

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  6. I'm not sure who is worse, but nobody likes or respects Vance, so I doubt he'll garner the same level of support as Trump to enact whatever idiotic agenda he has in store for US.

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  7. Trump has a sort of crude popularity like the locker room bully with his insults and dirty jokes. Lacking even that, JD will have to rule by brute force

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  8. I can’t wait for this fun ride. Grampa Golf will not be going away quietly-for him the presidency has been his own reality show-with gives him the ratings, the applause, the grifting opportunities and the constant attention he craves pathologically. Whatever ā€œcharismaā€ he has, JD has none of it. 😐

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  9. First I asked "Why Trump?", now it must be asked Why JD Vance? He has no vision beyond good pay and an easy job. With the exception of the degree from college, he looks like a total slacker rear echelon MF'er

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  10. Been saying this for years. He’s a temporary employee and a useful idiot to advance Project 2025. Vance will do far more damage because he will act in the shadows, and is Peter Thiel’s puppet. It will be Vance playing Vader and Thiel will be Palpatine pulling his strings and ruling by proxy.

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  11. They will wait until after midterm elections . Blame Trump for midterm losses. Vance can se serve 2 years and still be elected twice more.

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  12. Yeah.

    In the end, they're going to juice Trump for all he's worth. Then they'll slop the MAGA pigs with his hollowed-out remains.

    MAGA will ultimately implode & collapse. Republicans will be left running with the shackles of his ghost for decades to come but without the unified cult behind them.

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  13. That’s their plan. But I don’t see them moving forward on it until they think they have destroyed enough democratic institutions so that Vance’s unpopularity doesn’t matter. I hope they get their timing wrong.

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  14. They will try and wait until after the start of 2027. That way they can get 10 years out of vance.

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  15. Vance will be worse than Trump.. He's a vicious SOB and I'll bet he'd make Miller his VP.. And there's your Nazi gov't

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  16. PROJECT 2025 doesn't need trump or MAGA anymore. Watching him keep destroying America's government is their drug of choice. Why is NOTHING being constantly voiced about their control over EVERYTHING he does. Theil, Musk, Tech, corporate, Theocrats and billionaires are destroying America.

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  17. Then it will all fall apart because JD Vance is a little douche nozzle and he would never get the people behind him not that Trump isn't a douche nozzle but for whatever reason stupid people love him.

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  18. My thoughts, Vance invokes the 25th, and MAGA splits further with tech bro MAGA and MAGA MAGA. Vance cannot control congress like Trump can. Best Vance can hope for is Trump to die in office.

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  19. I do agree with you. But here's where I'm at: Vance does not have the same ability to muster the magas as trump does. While I think that IS the plan, I don't think it's a very good one.

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  20. You're probably too smart/astute for this but have you considered running for the house or senate in TX Paul?

    Help blow through their gerrymandering malfeasance.

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  21. That might be their plan, but JD Vance is no Trump. Trump is an anomaly. He has evolved into this persona. Like all of the masks that he has worn throughout the years have melted down and combined and are now a strange heterogeneous mixture. Vance will never be Trump. He will be their puppet.

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  22. I dont think they need to worry about Trump's mental health. They already have the list, kill two birds with one stone and put him in jail while claiming he destroyed all the evidence that would incriminate other powerful pedos

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  23. This was always the plan, but fortunately, Vance doesn’t scare people, like FOTUS does. But he is def smarter than T, so who knows what will happen, other than more terrible things that will befall our country.

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  24. Let the one not in the Epstein files throw the first big stone.....

    More importantly, if redacting did not get rid of Trump in files than obviously the Pee tape is not a physical thing but all the videos in Epstein files with Trump in them....

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  25. We need to sweep the elections in 26. Maga Mike's term ends Jan 3 2027. If he has to face a dem majority in congress he will, because he is a weasel, try to gain favor with the dems. Would love to see him out on his arse.

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  26. Just the fact they even admitted his Cankles was the first step. Trump has been snorting drugs and eating fast food for 50 years. Tick tock

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  27. Yes, everyone is waiting for that. I saw yesterday a scene from his signing in front of the press. As he entered the room, he had problems with his leg and they did remove a few seconds from the video, when he was leaving the room. I saw on bluesky the missing scene, he had problems again.

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  28. I also think it's worth remembering that the Tech Right also put their weight behind JD Vance and will be looking to cash in. Yarvin's call for a government CEO (AKA King) to supplant democracy has been well circulated among the Silicon Valley crowd.

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  29. When they do it will be the end of their party. Vindictive baby Trump will go scorched earth on all of them.

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  30. All bets are off if Trump is unable to fill out his term. He will toss anyone he can under the bus to protect his own skin. Once Vance takes the reigns of power, he will throw the remaining staff to the wolfs. This will secure his dominance of presidential power.

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  31. The corporate news is going to negatively criticise Trump, even Fox. Trump is going to go apeshit mad and lose what little composure he has. They’re going to do soon so JD can save the mid terms. But if they do this the hard core MAGAts may turn against them. Anyway my little look into the future.

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  32. Seems pretty clear that’s the plan. There’s an opinion piece posted on The Hill that states, front and center, that Trump is in cognitive decline. So it has begun

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  33. I was just taking to someone about this very same thing last night. Now they move the pieces into place for Vance to step in. Next comes the nod from those in the upper echelons controlling the chessboard, the game has been in play for a while and we’ve all known it.

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  34. Worse: they are just evil enough to make political hay from a (Reichstag Fire) assassination and the resultant patriotic fervour. And then you can kiss democracy goodbye.

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  35. Interesting theory. The only hole I can see is Trump is the party he's made sure to brand himself as the party. I think if he was removed the underlings would fall into infighting he's the only one keeping these narcissists in their place. And I don't think Vance has the charisma to be a cult leader

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  36. Yep! I would have to worry, though of who would be the vice president under a president JD Vance! I can only hope that at a minimum that JD Vance is smart enough to know that these tariffs are a bad idea for the country!

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  37. If only there was some way to get them...the #GOP insiders, the #HeritageFoundation people and the #Oligarchs like Peter Thiel.

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  38. Peter Thiel has been laser focused and stays out of the lime light. Not worth as much as Musk but more dangerous than Musk and Vance is his puppet. Would not surprise me if Thiel too is in the Epstein files.

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  39. Yes. I’ve been saying TACO won’t last til the end of the year since they passed that awful bill. Vance can swoop in and kill the tariffs and the idiotic wasteful ballroom plan and prop himself up as a fiscal hero. I expect him to be as bad or worse for the country.

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  40. JD is controlled by Peter Thiel. Peter Thiel will make your dystopian nightmares a fucking reality. It's like every dystopian novel and film you've read or watch will be brought to life by Peter Thiel.

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  41. It only took millions dying from Covid and related issues, a violent attack on American democracy and 18 months of brutally heinous unconstitutional actions and thousands of blatant lies...along with daily reminders that the current occupant of the WH is a pedophile, convicted felon and rapist. Whew

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  42. Soooo true it’s right in Project 2025.last week it had reached 46% of their goals. Kevin Robert’s said ā€œ the second Revolution can be BLOODLESS IF THE LEFT ALLOWS ITā€¦ā€

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  43. Then headline should read Deep State Cover-Up of his medical and cognitive state. Under him, the deep state grows stronger.

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  44. Maybe so, Paul, but the damage done is irreconcilable. tRump's entire administration has been covering up for child rapers and crooks and filthy rich bastards stripping away human rights and freedom. The Heritage Foundation is rotten to the core and the corporations funding it are as well.

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  45. Trump is not losing supporters in large numbers. Now, the Grand Ol’ Pedophile Party is out there trying to shift the narrative as opposed to holding Donald Trump accountable!

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  46. There is no question that the thing is not playing with a full deck and that was obvious before the election.

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  47. Trump 2.0 always the means to set Project 2025 in motion. Vance is the one they have chosen as their Christian nationalist leader to fulfill the plan.

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  48. At least Vance doesn't have the "charisma" Trump has. When Trump finally leaves the stage my hope is that MAGA rips itself apart. And if it doesn't tear itself apart, we will have to do what we can to drive wedges wherever we can.

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  49. My theory when I heard that Peter Thiel was the one who pushed Vance. It is the only way Vance would ever get the title of President. It reminds me of the comedy of the American Presidents, where the VP got to office by framing the Pres for attempting to kill the former 2 presidents.

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  50. I have felt that this was always their plan. They know he's mentally incompetent and they're just propping him up. For now. Vance's a far more dangerous person and not enough people realize that.

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  51. Yes - exactly this! Thiel’s little Frankenstein Vance will be 10 times worse. Meat puppet Trump allowed the Rapid Scheduled Disassembly of the federal government & destroyed SCOTUS. Things will move even faster under Vance.

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