I’ve always been a big 2nd Amendment guy bcuz I fear government tyranny. I fear masked & armed government agents taking to our streets against the people. So how come all my fellow 2nd Amendment guys, who said they too feared government tyranny, are now happily on the side of the government tyranny?
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All those years cosplaying patriots who need guns in case of an authoritarian government, and all the NRA and most members turned out to be is guys compensating for small dicks and a marketing company encouraging them to buy more.
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You are right, but if you also agreed with them on that then why aren't you using your 2nd amendment rights to fight? Probably cuz you know what would happen if anyone did. You wouldn't survive and martial law would occur. That's why they probably aren't trying anything.
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Not this one.
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Joe, your 2nd Amendment guys are fine with tyranny as long as they get to be the tyrants.
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Because that reasoning was always bullshit for 99% of them. They just think guns are fun.
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47's govt hates who "2nd Amendment Guys" hate.
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Gun sales are up amongst left leaning folks btw.
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Reagan passed gun laws because Black Panthers started protesting with guns. To protect themselves from a radical government.
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Because they are hypocrits who clearly do not think for themselves or independently. Plus I am tired of the "fear" excuses.
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Because they truly didn’t believe it in their core. They are power hungry & would sell their soul to the devil (probably already have) to maintain & gain more power.
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Nobody took up arms when George W. Bush fabricated his cause for war. Mobile biological weapons labs? Puh-lease. The notion that anyone is going to fight tyranny is an incel's wet dream. If you want to save your ass from tyranny, plan an escape for you and your assets
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I hope you're asking that same question over on the X site.
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Because the tyranny is being directed at people of color.
This isn't hard to understand Joe.
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When people seem to be acting in ways inconsistent with or counterproductive to their stated priorities, they might be making a mistake. But more likely, they are lying.
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Because they're all pussies, cosplaying and talking tough, too stupid and too limited in historical knowledge or imagination to recognize that tyranny is here, right now, violating the parts of the Constitution that don't fit on a T-shirt or bumper sticker. No AI memes to tell them it's started.
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It’s racism, Sir. They don’t consider the armed masked government agents to be “tyrannical” because they think foreign born people are a danger to America that the agents are getting rid of. “They aren’t after MY people, so why would I be afraid of them?” is their mentality
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It was NEVER about protecting themselves from government tyranny. It was ALWAYS about making sure they were the ones with the guns when they became the tyrannical government.
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Do you see now why so many people have long been skeptical of that rationale for the Second Amendment?
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Because that was a load of BS. It's all about insecure little men who think a gun makes them powerful.
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Because you've been fed a false interpretation of the 2nd Amendment. There's no "right of revolution". It was to make sure we did not need a large standing army that could be used at the Pres's whim; states controlled the militias. Now, Trump is creating his shock troops and taking over militias.
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Because they are, by-and-large, white. Lily fucking white incels, wife-beaters, cheaters, deadbeats, and child rapists. Just like their hero.
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Another lie.
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See, Joe? 2nd A fanatics are about "strenght" (intimidation) and "order". And to them, fascism IS strenght and "order", their order. They think this regime will put them back on the right rung.
Most of us who kept our attention on these knew what would happen under Pedonald. And we were right.
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They always saw themselves that way, as fellow travellers
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Tread on them, not me.
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Because this was never a good faith argument.
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Selling out for years, Republicans, NRA & Russia bsky.app/profile/chri...
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Because it was never about “government tyranny.”
It was always about who the use of government power seemed to be directed against.
“Government tyranny” is AOK if it’s directed against people that the Second Amendment absolutists don’t like.
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I admit, I was once a believer in confiscating guns. But now that Trump’s gestapo is kidnapping people and sending them to concentration camps, I now have a gun in case they enter my house.
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Easy to understand when the tyranny is coming from their leader it’s ok.
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Like much of our nations history… the Second Amendment partly stemmed from racism. They weren’t scared of a tyrannical government, they feared a slave rebellion. www.npr.org/2021/06/02/1...
Historian Uncovers The Racist Roots Of The 2nd Amendment
Carol Anderson says the Second Amendment was designed to ensure slave owners could quickly crush any rebellion or resistance from those they'd enslaved. Her new book is The Second.
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Great question! Because it was never about the 2nd Amendment? HMMM!
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(the racism is more important to them)
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Appreciate you not being a republican these days but you have to look at that first sentence and it appears that stupid fucking ideas like this is what made MAGA what it is today. And it’s truly how you feel. Like you want to kill people. You might still require a lot of help
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because it was always about racism, Joe. Did you not ever notice that all of those guys who were saying that shit were white?
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Time for us to establish a "well regulated" militia to take back our country? Give it some thought.
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What people have forgotten is that the second amendment was put in place mostly to protect ourselves for a tyrant in government! That was the main reason,as used by republicans when a democrat is in the WH.
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And that is precisely why I support gun control.
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Simple, and I’m sure you can agree because you posted some similar shit back in your GOP/Twitter days:
Because it was a Dem POTUS that’s why. People were pissed that the country was progressing. Especially with a black POTUS
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Because it was never “life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness” for all. It was for them and people like them.
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Because it’s their guy. They’re fine with a despot as long as it’s theirs
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Why did Germans turn in their neighbors during Hitler-to protect themselves their families and their money
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"Some of those that work forces are the same that burn crosses"
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Becuz it’s THEIR brand of government tyranny.
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It's all about white Christian Nationalists.
Trump said numerous times at his rallies that immigrants poison the blood of this country. Called them animals, etc.
His followers agree with that. Get the brown people out.
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Because the don’t tread on me crowd wants to tread on everyone else’s rights that do not fit into their little box.
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To anyone who’s been paying attention, this would not be surprising.
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Great question!
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The constitution specifically states the Militia can be called up to supress insurrections.
Yet those who now call themselves "the Militia" see themselves as unaccountable to all authority. They are willing to do only what they want to do.
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I have been saying this since his first term. The 2A people were fine with it then because the targets are people they don't like
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Because it's never been about government overreach and tyranny, and always been about keeping the "undesirables" down and you were naive enough to buy into the propaganda.
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They don’t think for themselves, therefore they’re easily manipulated. They hear something on Fox or OANN and think, “this is an authoritative source, so they must be correct.”
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Same reason these people were quiet when Philando Castile was killed
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Great fucking question!!!
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It’s the “it’s always OK if I do it” political philosophy, as opposed to the lie that was ‘convservatism’
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Cuz they are lily livered cry babies who are scared of women and intelligence.
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Because they were always full of shit fascists.
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They are stupid Joe. They think tyranny that starts out directed at others will never be directed at them.
What makes this all worse, is that they have attached their egos to being stupid and now can't recover from their stupidity.
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When the army take charge of the police citizens with guns will be no match. If you owning guns gives you some dillusional sense of comfort then knock yourself out Joe. Its a consitituional right. But when they come for you, and they will, good luck fighting them off with what you're packing.
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They knew that it was all a pretext, and you just didn't figure it out.
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Because they're all racist pieces of shit and love it's brown and black people getting fucked.
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Whoops, I dropped something...better leave it here in case anybody needs to see it... www.history.com/articles/bla...
The NRA Supported Gun Control When the Black Panthers Had the Weapons | HISTORY
Back in the 1960s, even the NRA supported gun control to disarm the group.
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So honest answer here, as I’m a liberal 2A supporter. What are we supposed to do? We need organization. We can’t have everyone being a lone wolf - It won’t be successful or lasting.
The 2A ensures that citizens are equipped to join forces, but there’s no militia or armed forces on our side to join.
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it was all about playing soldier ...
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jack booted thugs run wild as maga approves the beatings & torture ... hey maga ten men beating some brown guy, that's fair right ?
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They ARE the terrorists.
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Because MAGA = Pure Unadulterated Racism
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Because they were never against tyranny. They were against a democratic process that didn't give them what they wanted--a fascist state. Trump delivered what they have always wanted.
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Racism. Dude come on!
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It's because their definition of freedom is specifically their personal freedom, and their definition of tyranny is universal healthcare and a living wage.
Which makes the murder of all those school children being the price of their singular freedom a pretty fuckin bitter pill to swallow. More so
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Because it was all a lie.
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obama never took the guns ,even after he went to 26 classrooms in sandyhook . because he is a Harvard schooled lawyer , just like all those republican men ,same with biden ,they were not authoritarian leaders ,but yet trump can do anything . unreal .and those repub men pretend to not know better
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Because most of them are ICE Supremacists
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The only problem is, many of the gun owners in America believe in a tyrannical government. In theory that makes sense, but the reality is that many of the gun owners are right there with tRUMP. Now we kinda find ourselves with a lot of armed individuals who want to destroy democratic values.
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You're so close to getting it Joe, so close.
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If you’re such a good guy, why aren’t you on the streets with your guns?
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You think your guns can protect you from our military?
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Because most are fake hardasses. It will be the party of trump that will come for our guns.
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Because you were dupped. As liberals always told you this is what most of them intended all along. Thanks for your inquiry.
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The thing is: an armed overthrow of the government is never going to be legal, so 2A protections are more about masturbating to guns than actually defending freedom. If you want to overthrow the government, it shouldn't matter to you whether or not the government gives you permission to arm.
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Wow you are an even bigger dumbell than I originally thought. You didn't know your Republican coworkers and supporters have always been fucking fascists?!
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Because their skin is a “safe” color.
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because they're targeting African-Americans, not white people
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It's tyranny but it's their tyranny.
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Because republicans are brain dead and complicit. 💯
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They were always full of shit. They just wanted to be wearing the boot.
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Solution: Elect only Democrats.
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You know the answer to that one.
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because they are the tyrants now...
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Because it wasn’t about gun rights, it was about dominance
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No one is coming for their guns or their white america?
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Because they are cowards and always have been.
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Does it really surprise you? I mean, they called Kamala a socialist, and parole and asylum seekers an invasion. That’s how dumb they are. They are also radical xenophobes. Just the way you taught them. So, why are you confused? Are you also that dumb?
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Because it’s their tyrant, the guy who “says what I think.” Before, it was always an abstraction or a fantasy (a black president with a funny name taking their guns away). Now it’s their bully giving them permission to be their worst selves, so it’s OK.
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The author of this post threatened to arm up and take the Capitol if Trump didn’t win in 16. Now he’s doing whatever the fuck this is.
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Are you actually that simple.
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They wanted their guns so they could be the tyrants.
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Being a "big 2nd Amendment guy" doesn't stop you from being turned into a smoking crater by a drone and/or Apache helicopter. It is simply a free promotional opportunity for the NRA x the number of gun humpers.
You should more accurately be called a big "Gun Lobby Guy", because that's what you are.
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You still have much to learn about the deep rooted pathology of America’s white society.
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No matter if the person is a past or present R/con, they are sure to invoke the words fear and tyranny. Never a sign of strength, only that of weakness.
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Because it was never about government tyranny
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Because your defining factor is fear.
That's extremely easy to manipulate, and the core emotion of fascism.
You're afraid of nebulous boogiemen and so are your fellow second amendment nuts. You put everyone around you in actual danger to enable a God damn Rambo fantasy.
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How come? Narcissism consumes your dignity, decency, honesty and kindness.
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LOL. They just love guns! And I’ll give you this: the NRA has been genius at PR messaging; as a manufacturer lobby, absolute gold. Good god, the 2A is the only Constitutional amendment Americans will (at least rhetorically) die for. All the others? Meh. Whatever. Just fucking astonishing.
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It's not about government tyranny. Trumpsters tore down the US flag at the Capitol and replaced it with a Trump flag. It's about fear and psychosis. Fear of changing demographics. Fear of loss of white control. The GOP is dying off. Literally. And they know it.
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They never cared about America and what it stands for but have no problem crying behind its protections
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They only feared government tyranny if it meant women and POC had equal rights.
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Because it was always a lie.
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Because they are liar and want to get reelected. They have no spine and us only thinking about themselves.
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Because there anger is being directed at the non white people and leftists they have always enjoyed killing.
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Its like Libertarians, they hate big government when they aren't the ones who are in charge. It's an obviously hollow stance.
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These folks are awfully quiet
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It was always going to come to this exact moment!
The boogyman tyrant government was always the cover story to limit and scapegoat black and brown people out of taking up arms against the racist unjust system.
You people NEVER needed protection against the system you built.
#PABCheated
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Because they are fine with tyranny if it blows their way.
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@walshfreedom.bsky.social We don’t have the same wealth that you do, so why don’t you participate in mutual aid to support us?
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Very good question!
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It is certainly arguable that dictators will ultimately not allow gun ownership. They can’t have armed subjects.
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The government has nuclear weapons. The 2d Amendment has nothing to do with preventing tyranny, you ninny.
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Because so far only the people they hate are being harassed, arrested, denied due process & abused. This is what MAGA voted for & they won't regret their vote until they are personally affected.
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Joe, good question. I would like to know your answer.
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Because they haven’t lost their SSA and VA and SNAP and Medicare and Medicare yet….. that’s when shit hits the fan.
Not unless and until
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Because they’re the ones wearing the mask out in the streets! It’s not aged to put 2 and 2 together.
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Still waiting for the NRA guys to answer this one.
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Easy.
Lying hypocrites.
Immoral eejits.
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Which goes to show you the 2nd Amendment is bullshit. The defense of it is bullshit. We have too many guns in this country. Period. End of story. And the whackadoos who always spout this protection from tyranny nonsense have shown their true colors.
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Because it was always about them lording their ideas over everyone else.
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Perspective? Or perhaps simply ignorance.
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Actually had someone tell me face-to-face during the Biden admin. how Biden was going to implement a Turner Diaries-style gun seizure and he would stand his ground and resist the Biden tyranny. Did my best to reassure him that nothing of the sort would happen and left him with a gift copy of ...
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I think it's because they're basically big wussies who had an unrealistic vision of their ability to affect the world around them.
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It wasn’t ever really about government tyranny for them. It was about government tyranny - by the “other” side. They love government tyranny by their side. They love government intervention against their perceived enemies.
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Because the government is being tyrannical towards mostly non-white people, and mostly poor people, who Republicans over the years have taught white people to hate.
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because they care more about things likke making gay marriage illegal
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Been saying this. Show me one Guntuber talking about this besides InrangeTV.
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I’m beginning to think it was never about tyranny.
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Bc it’s all a sham. Anyone who thinks one AR is gonna hold off an assault by our military needs to get off the crack. It’s all marketing fantasy to sell more weapons.
#justiceforVirginia
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As djt is a wanna be dictator, I always ask my gun enthusiast pals, have ya ever looked at the gun laws in Russia? China? If you're not a magit, I think they will come after your guns. Just saying. 🤔
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Oh now, you know it was never "government tyranny" per se they feared. Remember how quickly gun restrictions were proposed when the Black Panthers set up armed patrols to keep their neighborhoods safe
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Good question!
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Im betting most those assholes are ICE agents now. "Don't Tread on ME, everybody else? Fuck 'em"
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It’s not about freedom, it’s a murder fantasy. To hold the power of life and death over someone who has violated your personal space. To kill without repercussions. Stand your ground bullshit. Kill somebody because you have irrational fear of strangers. Hunt protesters to protect property. BTW….
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Brown people don't count. Same reason they were against Hitler and naziism until they realized that brown people are Trump's Jews. MAGA would gladly light the ovens.
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I think you know why. It’s their guys who are masked and armed. They have shown us that they are fine with tyranny.
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Boy, does that question answer itself.
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At some point, Trump will come for their guns....
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Oh come on! We all know that is not what 2nd amendment nuts advocate for!!!! They want unlimited rights to guns with no regulations. Don't pretend that has not been the goal Joe.
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Bc they never really cared about the 2nd amendment.
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“It ain’t tyranny if I support it ”
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was just mentioning that same thing to someone today.
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It’s their kind of tyranny.
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Because they are the tyrants
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Because it was never about principle. Same as with fiscal conservatism, free trade, individual liberties, etc. the GOP has proven it consistently cares about one thing and one thing only - power.
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Because it's lucrative.
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Really?
I mean…
REALLY??
It was pretty clear to anyone not living in a cult mindset what that was all about. Here it is, every anti-NRA activist and gun-control proponent’s arguments proven: your fellow 2nd Amendment guys were always looking to BE the tyrants. How did YOU miss it?
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They only feared tyranny when they thought the black man was coming for their feeedoms.
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Racism Joe, come on
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Because The idea that a bunch of armed gun nuts were gonna hold back the US govt was a talking point - not a likely outcome. Plus, they think they're owning the libs.
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Because they take their freedoms for granted and don’t think anything bad will happen to them.
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When conservatives say “tyranny” they mean “pluralistic democracy”.
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I mean, they are upset that a dude threw a sandwich at an FBI dude trying to be a beat cop. A sandwich! The FBI patrolling the streets of an American city in a political show of intimidation. And yet these 2A dudes think sandwich guy in public enemy #1?
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Because the tyranny is at the ‘other’, not at them. What they don’t understand is that it will eventually come for them.
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You truly believed.
You were a tiny minority. Most of your compatriots had a different agenda.
Think about it.
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Because they’re not going to use their guns against a masked and armed government unless they’re going start an organized insurrection and wage guerrilla warfare. Cmon, everybody knows the “2nd Amendment people” were never about standing up to the government. They’ve always been the government.
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I've long said that if you start seeing black and brown people carrying long guns on their shoulders in coffee shops, you'd have some frickin gun control in place ASAP. None of these "2d Amendment believers" are going to stand in and protect the groups being targeted.
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Because they want the people who are targets to die because of decades of perpetuated racism but the GOP. The GOP has spent nearly 50 years running psyops on the base to get us exactly here.
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Blind cult.
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It was fascism all along.
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That hypothetical government tyranny was SUPPOSED to be left-wing.
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Because tyranny is defined now as political beliefs. Thanks TEA PARTY!
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Their beliefs weren’t real. Their love of the constitution was for show.
They just liked guns. As long as nobody tries to take those away, they don’t care what the government does to people.
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Joe Joe Joe 🙂↔️ did you really think the guns were an insurance against a tyrannical government?
It was always clear 2nd Amendment champions sought to intimidate any lawful government enforcing laws they disliked, like equal protection and minority rights.
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Because they believe they’re not next.
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Bc, for them, it was never about tyranny or the Second Amendment; it was about racism and arming themselves against people they fear—their fellow citizens who aren’t white, not the government.
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That's a damn good question, Joe.
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They read the constitution like people read religious books - pick what is convenient for your current argument.
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Because they, like you, willfully misunderstand 2A.
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Because racism, fear and greed are bigger motivating factors. Plus they don’t feel threatened as long as they believe the government is on their side. We can’t count on republicans changing their mind. We’re on our own.
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Also funny how they scream ‘don’t touch the 2nd Amendment’ but say nothing about how much the 1st amendment gets shit on for so many in this country #1st4aReason
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you were drowning in racists the entire time joe, you dumb bitch
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Because it’s the kind of tyranny violent gun nuts love. License to shoot anyone they don’t like.
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The 2nd A is useless here in the exact case they said they were needed. This untrained, unorganized "militia" is an aberration of our history. The only result we have for the 2nd A. is endless school shooting, etc. Other gun-banning countries got it right.
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Because they think it’s only affecting the ‘others’….. if it’s not a white male they don’t think they should have equal rights…
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It 👏 has 👏 never 👏 been 👏 about 👏 standing 👏 up 👏 to 👏 tyranny 👏 it 👏 has 👏 always 👏 been 👏 about 👏 wanting 👏 the 👏 power 👏 to 👏 be 👏 tyrannic 👏 if 👏 the 👏 mood 👏 strikes! 👏
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Um they're all working for ICE now obvs
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I’m going to take a guess and say for some, too many, it has more to do with white supremacy then it does with government tyranny………
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Because they only meant 2nd amendment rights for white men.
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They are just afraid of liberal tyranny, whatever the fuck that might be. They won't fear trump's brand of tyranny until they are next on his hit list. You know the famous quote, "first they came for..."
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Real good point, glad you put this out there for people to think about.
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It was never about government tyranny.
It was about giving them power. Guns give power.
They wanted the guns to intimidate, to kill, to control that is what is has ALWAYS been about. 2A is just what they hid behind. We could have had 2A AND gun control Joe, but that's now what tyrants wanted.
