Hello. The president's continued insistence that the BLS numbers are rigged, political, or otherwise manipulated is a lie. Please stop saying 'baseless claim.' Thank you.
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Thanks Kai. Euphemisms don’t fit into Authoritarian shoes. 👞
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Not just a lie, a "Fascist lie.”
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show us the evidence or STFU
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… for your attention to this matter 🙄
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LIE. It’s a short word, to the point, easy to say, easy to type. Stunning we do not see it used more often in news coverage about trump.
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Hey Kai, I'm a former tax preparer for large corporations. I used to complete all the census forms for various companies. # of new hires, total # of employees, sales, cost of sales, net income etc. I've been explaining it to friends, & find most had no idea how economic data is gathered. 🤔
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thank you for standing strong in the face of whatever buffoonery is going on nowadays
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True...Hello ...please name the individuals who refer to Trump's lies as a "baseless claim"....and in fall name all individuals who refuse to call out Trump as a liar (and more) Thank you
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Oh, and....
He's in the Epstein Files.
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Just remember, he's ALWAYS projecting! ALWAYS LYING!
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Right on!
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“No evidence” says it all 😡
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Please just call a lie, a fucking lie.
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We all know unemployment is up..by golly how many layoffs in DC alone and prices on consumer goods is up 30%. He should know what his team has done and doing to our good economy. His dismantling of the US is moving ahead.
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Trump is the master of baseless claims. Love how he thinks everyone else is doing it.
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The MSM is pathetic in this country…that’s what happens when you’re owned by oligarchs.
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what might be going on here, Kai?
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also, it's not authoritarianism
it's fascism
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Kai, you're showing your (our) colleagues, by example, how it should be done.
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If NPR had you in charge of their news operations, Trump might not have won re-election in 2024.
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For Trump to say that the BLS statistics are rigged is not only a lie, it is a blatant, mindless, obvious lie.
These numbers are almost impossible to manipulate.
Any half-informed person knows that.
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It has been baseless, but that may well change.
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It was a lie, but it's about to become true.
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Were they rigged in July?
Simple question
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What is the reluctance to call a lie a lie? I
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Same with “misrepresented” and similar euphemisms. Call them what they really are. Words matter.
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Ditto “claimed without evidence.”
FFS, just say, “the president lied. [Again.]”
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They’re all lies.
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To whom are you addressing this?
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Yeah…listen to Kai FFS!
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Also, he’s a child sex trafficking rapist pedo.
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He’s lowered drug prices by 1500%, Kai. That can’t be a baseless claim.
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Yep. MSM refuses to face the facts.
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To say they are a lie is a baseless claim. You can explain why it's wrong if you want to, but it's certainly worth the discussion. The wild corrections to the jobs numbers along with super suspicious timing is a bad look.
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Yes! Say the word. I cannot fathom why reporters, newspaper writers and editors have such an aversion to clarity. It’s a requirement t of the job!
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He can bleat all he wants. I have noticed that even Trump nuts are questioning his” economy.” Price of food, restaurants, gas. Seeing lots of lay-offs…💙🔥😤 #makeamericasaneagain
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Lying will not change the facts in this situation. We all will feel the effects of this economy no matter if they tell the truth or not. It's like saying it's a sunny day when it's stormy weather. We all can see the sky, dude...
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It’s not baseless to those who can no longer feed or house their families.
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Yes!! Call these what they are! LIES!
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Trump LIES America DIES and the media is complicit😠
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It’s only making the problem worse, of course.
With one fell & Authoritarian swoop, US economic data is no longer reliable.
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He won’t. He’ll keep supporting his own lies until he goes under ground
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Right on Kai
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Trump is a one trick pony according to him everything that doesn't go his way is "rigged". He is mentally challenged.
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EVERYTHING they say is in fact a fucking lie!
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Yes, LIE is the proper and factual description!
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Cue the @nytimes.com headline: “Trump’s effort to mold data to his narrative have largely won. But can it continue?”
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After 10 years of Trump on the political stage, the media might have figured out that he and his MAGA followers will never, ever show respect to fair and independent media. If it’s a lie, just call it a lie. Citizens with critical thinking skills will respect you for delivering the plain truth.
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This “baseless claim” or that he’s saying something “without evidence” drives me nuts. Thanks for calling it out for what it is - a lie
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I don’t give a shit what numbers they throw at us we still have our grocery receipts
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He went up on a roof yday...
He was there for 3 mins plus ...
In that 3 mins plus...
He lied 19 times !
#Compulsive
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sorry bud, it’s 2025, lies don’t exist anymore. they’re all just “false claims”
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Right on, Sir. ✊🏼
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"An absurd lie" would be even better.
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Well said. Trump took a very strong economy and trashed it by making incompetent decisions and embracing archaic policies. Now he's not man enough or mentally capable of accepting that he has failed miserably. He has to blame someone, anyone, but himself.
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Please tell your colleagues at NPR that. They keep trying to both sides everything and it’s disgusting.
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Of course their estimates would be wrong by a wider margin than usual, Trump has tried to destroy 40 years of systemic economic progress, and replace it with his whims.
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Thank you for your attention to this matter
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Obama born in Africa Hilary Responsible for all evil Russians did not help me win Mexico will pay for wall I won in 2020 Covid will go away by April Other countries will pay the tariffs
On and on and on - fox news makes it seem ligit
Sorry he wont stop
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"A figment of his addled, narcissistic brain with zero basis in reality " would work.
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I’m with you 100%. The press dances around Trump all the time. He tells lies. Say so. “Trump lied today when he said……” Treating his lies like they’re just personal opinions drives me bats.
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Baseless claims, total lies, and Racism is the entire Republican platform.
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The press should have been using the word “lie” and its variants for a long, long time…
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Then he quotes the numbers when he finds one he likes …
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The media must stop covering for him all together. Trump LIES! They need to SAY IT! They need to tell the Truth...it's THEIR JOB!
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It’s not a baseless claim as much as it is desperate bullshitting
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And it is an “import tax” not a tariff
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So you have professional people who have been doing the numbers for years, and now that you don't like the numbers it's a baseless claim, and you fire them. That's like shoplifting because an item didn't have a price tag on it, and claiming it was free.
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They were not rigged the numbers are low the economy is tanking open your eyes and stop believing when they try to do damage control
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TY for the language correction. Words matter.
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Harry Frankfurt’s “On Bullshit”
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He bankrupted casinos.
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You heard the man..... I mean, he DID say, "Please.".... Now do something that can motivate him to say, "Thank you.". Please.....
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"numbers are rigged" From the man who gave you prescription discounts of 300, 500, 1,500 per cent
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I hate baseless and false claims. Lies are lies! Thanks for bringing this up again.
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Don't they know we've all read Orwell's 1984?
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EPSTEIN FILES
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A close second is when NPR (or whoever) says things like "How Gov. Abbott would remove Democrats from their elected office is unclear." It's not flat wrong, but it gives far too short shrift to there being precious little actual path to do it. It's not really "unclear", it's just bluster!!
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Twice impeached, epsteingate, full-time liar!
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By the way, I am a big fan of your show.
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...for your attention to this matter.
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Almost seems like you should have signed this off with "THANK YOU FOR YOUR ATTENTION TO THIS MATTER"
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wish we could say Trump is base-less
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Truth
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People don’t seem to understand the meaning the of the word LIE. Look who they voted for.
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Trump's claim is false. US CPI shows prices rose ~24% cumulatively from 2020 to 2025. June 2025 inflation: 2.7% YoY overall, 2.4% for groceries—still increasing, not decreasing. Energy dipped 0.8% YoY. Stocks did surge: S&P 500 up ~69% since end-2020. Sources: BLS, Trading Economics.
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Exactly. Basic reporting shows sufficient basis to conclude the claim is a lie.
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Merely alternative facts. Nothing to see here. Move along, folks.
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I will settle from " yet more smoke out the orange ass."
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Why do media have such a hard time calling a lie a lie.
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Why would they start now?
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My kids were both Journalism majors and the way I understand it, you can’t report someone is lying unless you, reporter, can get into their head and know that the person has intent to lie, so you can’t report that as fact. You can only report that what he/she is saying is a false statement.
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It’s a big fat lie from a big fat liar
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Who said it is a baseless claim? I am unclear what thread you are referring to. He is #Teflon_Don and I continually call him the liar he is. #truthseeking_truthspeaking
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America Seems to be experiencing a faulty circuit. Turn OFF. Check manual (Constitution) Reset the God & Country Myth (GCM) Apply a sharp force or knife to the American Dream Network (FOX). Wait a minute then Turn ON . If this fails send PONTUS to Siberia for a full test (literacy/mental etc)🇦🇺🦘🙄🥺
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I REALLY appreciated your into to this, last week, on Market Place.
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Donald the Nonce is trying to distract
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Trumps claims are baseless, big fat lies. Just like everything he claims.
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Yes. I agree. They need to stop that. Such a lazy description.
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When I first heard the numbers, I knew it was a lie.
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It’s a distraction from the fact that he raped children.
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The BLS has been a nonpartisan institution across administrations. Undermining it damages public trust in facts — not just politics.
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Mainstream media is weak. Still won't call out lies.
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Trump has created a disaster and he is covering it up with lies. cbwrong.blogspot.com?m=1
I Could Be Wrong.
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Not only does he constantly lie...
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As one hears in court, false statements “go to credibility.” Donnie’s emissions are chum to those expressing righteous indignation and ADD news cycles. If his lips are moving (or gawping), just say “that’s nice” and move on. Use “lying” liberally instead of gussied up terms.
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Felon Trump cooked the books at Trump Organization
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And "without evidence" the dumbest euphemism for lying ever concocted
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Seems like classic slander coming out of his complaining
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Say the word LIE — treat Americans with the respect we deserve, goddammit!
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I can dig the sentiment, but I don't think this is going to get NYT or WaPo to stop licking the boots.
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Absolutely. It’s a sociopath intent to control and manipulate the world to one’s own interest…
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The sun rises in the East, some would argue.
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You really need to add THANK YOU FOR YOUR ATTENTION TO THIS MATTER if you want to be serious.😬
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Their dishonest approach to his lies is a lie in and of itself.
These aren't claims for which Trump "offered no proof." They aren't assertions that "may be wrong." And they certainly aren't "baseless claims." 😂
EVERY STATEMENT from Trump should be assumed to be a lie unless proven otherwise.
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Yeah! I’m waiting for someone, ANYONE, to say that to his face!
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Here’s a claim no one could deny, he’s a complete moron
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Everything he says is a lie. If he said his name was Donald Trump, I’d demand to see a valid birth certificate.
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dump will tell us whatever number he wants. if you are unemployed, can't feed your family, are not getting SNAP, aren't getting Medicare coverage, you know damn well he is lying to all of America. Wake up he has lied to us all since the day he was in his 20s.
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Trump lies
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🖕😵🍊🐥🌮!
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Baseless claim = Flat out LIE.
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I’ve been saying this about everything media has reported for ten years- maybe 11- long trump years.
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Ahem…as I was saying.
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Regardless of what is done - truth/fact does not go away.
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Going forward, the statement that "the BLS numbers are rigged, political, or otherwise manipulated" will be absolutely true.
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😡
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Hi Kai, Can we compromise? How about baseless lie?
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Exactly. Also conspiracy theories are usually some BS.
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Yes!! Facts don't cease to exist because they are ignored. - Aldous Huxley Everyone is entitled to their own opinion, but not their own facts. - Moynihan #facts
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Saying “baseless claim” assumes that proof exists but he refuses to state it, for some reason
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Thank you for calling out that it's a lie
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Call a spade a spade.
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Thank you! Been saying that forever. Just call it a lie and stop watering down what he's doing by calling a "baseless claim" or "claim without evidence." We all know what it is and what he's doing.
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Also he’s not “reshaping government data”. He’s corrupting it
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Speaking of worsening Trump dementia... bsky.app/profile/wals...
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Hello. Donald Trump is a compulsive liar. Thank you.
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When is media, any media, going to hold him accountable? Where is the proof the election was rigged? Where is the proof the jobs numbers were fake? How did they rig the election? How did they rig the job numbers? What are the real job numbers? This isn't hard! Even Rogan can ask these questions!
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Respect. Keep up the awesome work!
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It’s only a lie if you know it’s untrue. Trump lives in a psychotic fantasy world where it is true. His psychosis only occasionally allows him to interact with reality.
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One of the best analogies I've heard: he steps on the scale, doesn't like what it says he weighs, and throws it out until he can find one that provides a number he likes.
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They never want to use the "L" word. What's up with that?
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And the word “lie” only has 3 characters so it’s a win - win for everyone!
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Baseless claim is to lie as underage woman is to minor
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Call it the lie that it is, media!
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Sorry, Kai. Trump is a compulsive liar who doesn't remember what he said an hour ago, let alone yesterday. He is in decline and will continue to say baseless things continually. Sad, frustrating, irritating, but that is the way it is for this loser.
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Call a spade a spade. This moment in our history demands clarity in the words we use.
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CALL IT WHAT IT IS - A LIE!
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NPR has a nutso policy to not say “lie”
NPR’s No-‘Lie’ Policy and the Limits of Impartiality in the Trump Era
In the age of Trump and his unprecedentedly loose relationship with reality, NPR's strict adherence to “both sides” journalism does a great disservice to their listeners—to say nothing of the truth.
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but your own network, that you are a top-paid thought leader in, has a policy not to ever use the word “lie”, owing to an incorrect believe that intention to deceive is required.
why can’t you folks talk about this in the editors room?
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THANK YOU for this.
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X 1000
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Nonsense, he just can’t admit everything is a mess!!! His approval is in the toilet! That’s a cold hard fact!
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So fucking sick of the MSN twisted, and perverted way of rephrasing this fascist asshole.
ALL & EVERYTHING this fuckface is saying is a lie.
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Seriously, this is not like “question authority”. Do not trust anything this administration authors.
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The lying liar lies!
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A board of 40 finance governors determine the numbers and the BLS head delivers the news, so Trump is cutting the head off of one because of the calculations of others. Just saying Trump is killing the messenger is not enough. He is a blatant tantrum throwing liar.
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To some small but real degree, the continuation of the dollar as the world's reserve currency depends upon everyone understanding this point
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YES!
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#HeLiesAboutEverything
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Yes it's not baseless it's just a fuckin lie
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Is this what he was shouting when he was cluelessly wandering around on the White House roof?
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The reason NYT and WaPo are using "baseless claim" is Trump and his MAGA base don't know what it means.
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Often commentators say that Trump or his GOP stooges say something ridiculous "without hard evidence," as if there is plenty of less solid evidence.
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How about BULLSHIT?
WIll BULLSHIT suffice?
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Is it a damn lie? About statistics?
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THANK YOU for saying so Kai !!!
Us regular people need public figures, leaders, those with a platform, audience, etc to be doing this vociferously.
BTW, Marketplace is a phenomenal program and public svc. 🙏
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You should tag the New York Times and Washington Post when you note this.
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Ill take “baseless lie”. That works.
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"Stated without evidence" makes me want to throw my phone through my TV. It's been so many years, just say lied.
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Trump is fucked this time around…
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Trump is still a rap1st…Release the Epstein Files!
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Say, aren’t you the guy who spent the Biden years predicting a recession? The Biden Recession? Those are the days my friend, we hoped they’d never end…
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Gotta back up some of the other replies here; "lie" and "baseless claim" are different, because one denotes intentional deception and the other denotes just saying shit because you don't know better and don't care to find out. And they're arguably just as bad, for different reasons.
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Thanks for this.
Might want to call up your ok’ pal Inskeep. A tried and true water carrier for the Regime.
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🙌🙌🙌 Baseless claim makes it sound like he may have honestly heard something untrue and repeated it, when in fact he is the source of the lie.
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“baseless claim” is offensive to truth
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I really do understand why the media at times is hesitant to call a spade a spade, but there's a point where they just need to do it.
Yes calling something a lie in print that isn't is libel, but calling a clear lie baseless is lending it too much credibility.
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Trump’s new #BLS Commissioner