What do you think the 2nd order effects will be? Think the 60pct of Americans with stocks or retirement funds will like it when their savings crash ?

The layoffs when companies close and investment slows down considerably ? Etc ?

I've always been fine with raising my taxes on income.

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Want to use rich people like me to your advantage? Incent us to help those who need it the most. Lower corp taxes for comps that pay a min of $25 per hour. Lower corp taxes if employees get stock at the same pct as the CEO.

Bottom up incentives work. Dems never innovate. They bitch

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  1. Spending on public programs is why we all have what we have today. The internet and the space program lead to tech innovation that helped pad your pockets. Government research made the U.S. a world leader in healthcare and science. And all that is being gutted by conservative leadership now

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  2. Omg. Can you believe this bullshit?? "Give me more money so I'll do the right thing that I should be doing already." What an asshole. Block me, Cuban. I've had enough of your fake humanity.

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  3. Or tax the shit out of dividends and stock options for any corporation that doesn’t pay its employees a living wage.

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  4. Needing to be incentivized to do good, needing a material reward for abstaining from evil, reveals the rottenness in your heart: you know what the right thing is to do and you’re choosing, w full awareness, not to do it because it doesn’t enrich you even further, you with your billions and no soul

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  5. Why the actual fuck does someone with as much excess wealth as you do, money you’ll never spend in your lifetime, need INCENTIVE to help those who need it most?!?

    That is a vile sentence that just revealed a WHOLE lot about you

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  6. @mcuban.bsky.social did you read this before posting it? did you realize the vast majority of people reading it are just a couple pay checks away from homelessness. READ THE ROOM YOU NARCISSIST. Start with giving people the incentive to thrive not have the wealthy be incentivized to not be evil.

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  7. When we go hungry, we will have more than enough incentive to eat you and every other rich mother fucker in this country who built their empires on our backs and expected us to take the pittance and be greatful.

    You aren't better than us, Mark. You just have more money.

    For now.

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  8. You need to be "incented" (it's "incentivize," not exactly a difficult word) to do the right thing by your employees and to act in a moral way?

    You are a BILLIONAIRE. No one EARNS a billion dollars. The economy was healthiest when its corporate tax rate was over 50% and highest earners paid 70%+

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  9. No one is stopping your fellow billionaires from doing the right thing and saving the world. I can't believe what small ambitions you all have. You could be loved the world over. And your kind chooses yachts and sex bot trophy wives. Gates worked to protect vaccine patents. Ffs.

    https://worked.to

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  10. So you’re saying that you “want to be used”? I’ve heard about those fetishes where powerful men need a dominatrix…

    How about a progressive tax rate where the rate increases to 100% when you hit a billion? Want to lower your tax rate? Voluntarily reinvest into your people, facilities & communities.

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  11. Or… just throwing it out there… tax the rich appropriately while passing minimum wage laws that adjust for inflation.

    But I’m just a simple man.

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  12. America has "incentivised" corporations and the rich for DECADES!

    It NEVER trickled down!

    And now our country is broken.

    Get out of your ivory tower and open your eyes.

    You think you know what ordinary Americans are going through to survive, but you don't... you really don't!

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  13. Howzabout you guys just do the right thing because it’s the right thing to do, instead of because you were paid to do it Mark?

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  14. Not sure how Democrats can successfully incentivize corps in a way that protects workers when the Republican position is to lower corporate taxes AND let workers starve.

    Corps have a pretty easy choice there.

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  15. Basically you’re saying that you shouldn’t have to pay the same taxes I pay. This last year our income tax was 67000. But you need an incentive to do stuff with your money. You don’t pay the rate I pay because I have a job and you get your income from what again? I don’t need

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  16. well you know the corps will take the average wage. so when you pay the CEO 20 mil how much does that make the corps average wage? probably over 25/hr. but what is actually the lowest wage maybe min for that state.

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  17. I shouldn't need to incentivise you to not be a horrible person. Start giving a fuck about more than just shareholder profit

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  18. you being rich means there is less money in circulation for the rest of us. you getting richer cannot make everyone else less poor. it's not like you getting rich in the first place helped anyone.

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  19. 00000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000 Where would you really like the decimal point Mark?

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  20. Oh you need an incentive to not be a greedy parasite?? You should be taxed out of existence, you absolute leech.

    "LOwEr CoRp TaXeS"

    So corps can steal MORE MONEY?? You stupid fool, you complete moron, you waste of oxygen.

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  21. IT WONT FUCKING WORK!

    They will just spin up a "separate" company that they will just outsource their hourly employees. They will only keep their salary workers and rake in the money from reduced corporate profits.

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  22. I can "bitch" about your proposals off the top of my head. Wall Street paying less taxes than restaurants/grocers/etc. Any big firm that DOES hire working class, they'd just spin off their lower-paid employees to a new company and contract them back with the new co making jack shit (and paying it)

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  23. How much more incentives do the wealthy need? The average American taxpayer is already paying for tax reductions/incentives for the wealthy. Time to increase salaries for hard working Americans not continue to reward corp CEOs with more tax breaks.

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  24. Hey @ gork has anyone tried lowering corporate taxes before? Has it ever worked even one time for anyone that's not a corporation? Gork please my family keeps getting laid off by rich losers who refuse to take a paycut

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  25. How about you stop ripping people off by underpaying them???? Why should you get billions and they get breadcrumbs??????

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  26. zeyami.com profile picture

    Here's an innovation for your lame ass: outlaw private property.

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  27. Right, alternatively though we could just murder absolutely everyone who makes 8 figures and sieze all their assets, which would be way faster and not rely on us bribing oligarchs in the vain hope that they grow souls.

    Maybe keep in mind how extremely valid and historically successful that would be

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  28. Or maybe companies will move their headquarters to a tax haven and get 0% tax instead

    Maybe they will reinvest all there money and pay $0 corporate tax

    Corporate tax is the worst tax to cut cuz it’s the easiest to avoid and the most common to as well

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  29. We’ve known since the 80’s trickle down economics doesn’t work. Incentives? To do what you should have been doing all along? We’ve heard McDonald’s will raise prices sky high if they have to pay their workers a living wage. The problem is the super rich don’t care about their employees— only profits

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  30. How about instead of insane bonuses for management, and 5 houses and 10 cars— you all pay the people who actually do the labor what they deserve? They ARE your company. Want them loyal? Treat them like family! Give them financial comfort. The wealth gap gets further. Of course we bitch!

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  31. They bitch? Go live on min wage for a year and tell me if it’s a living wage. Tell me ceos truly give a shit about their employees if they need an incentive to make sure they have food, a safe/clean place to live and a little spending money at the end of the month. Of course we bitch. We get shit on

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  32. why should i need to incentivize being a decent human being? how about take off your asshat and look at your fellow man like other people and not commodities.

    fuck dude this is weak.

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  33. Interesting way to ACTUALLY make trickle down work, ie make it forced trickle or incentivized trickle. At least that’s what I think I’m reading here

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  34. Would like to use rich people like you as a sort of fuel for something -anything- useful to people who aren't rich people like you

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  35. Mark Cuban shows us exactly who he is here. Rather than doing the right things, LIKE MY BROKE ASS DOES DAILY, he needs monetary compensation, to do the right thing. Try just being Batman without the incentive agenda there Cuban.

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  36. You need to pay a higher percentage of taxes on your fortune. I am not trying to change your mind, I want you to CHANGE YOUR BEHAVIOR.

    You are too old to be this foolish, Mr. Cuban. Seriously. Why are you acting like this?

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  37. How about, there cannot be a spread between the lowest paid employee and the highest paid executive, employee, owner, etc., of more than 10x. Or even 20x. That would eliminate the problem we’ve created with people like Mark.

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  38. I like you and what you’re doing. At the behest of the conspiracy class, I also like what Gates has been doing with his foundation. Do you already ensure every employee in your companies make $25/hr? If not, why? Do you already offer stock options to your employees at the same rate you get? If not y

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  39. You're a dipshit AI booster, so you'll have to forgive me if I don't believe that you've got the best interest of low income employees at heart.

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  40. You have more money than you can possibly spend in several lifetimes. What the fuck else can you possibly need, you Noah Cross ass bitch?

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  41. why do you need an incentive to help those who need it most?

    just... help them?

    why do you need an incentive to help those who need it most????

    mark.

    WHY DO YOU NEED AN INCENTIVE TO HELP THOSE WHO NEED IT MOST?

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  42. I know you’ll never believe it but it infuriates me to no end either how dumb you are or how dumb you think we are. Just reading from Reaganomics while telling unskilled workers to lean on AI. Yall should start a society together to ruin because you are USELESS TO HUMANITY

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  43. You could incentivize a minimum wage or just make it a law!

    Why try to be too clever. Go above and beyond - your employees will stay with you. There. Incentive.

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  44. Also saying “dems never innovate” is just lazy and frankly untrue. The Affordable Care Act rollout was a mess and imperfect but it happened. Elizabeth Warren established the CFPB which has save billions for consumers. Obama found the US Digital Service which DOGE wrecked.

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  45. I don’t understand what you are looking to accomplish with your posts. It would help if you could back up any of your claims with research from actual economists. I am willing to listen but you alone are not credible as a source on how tax incentives work. What is the data?

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  46. Grim.

    If I were half as wealthy as you or your peers, I would not need incentives or external validation to help those who need it most.

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  47. At some point the raping of the workers and the government to fuel exorbitant executive pay and excess profiteering has to stop

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  48. How about no tax incentives and write fairness directly into the law.

    For every dollar of profit ...

    One third goes towards employee profit sharing, another third to taxes or the community and the last third is investment back in the company.

    LFor every dollar in profit

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  49. Maybe you could just help those who need it the most out of the goodness of your heart and not because you’re getting something in return.

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  50. It's telling that you assume others just want to use rich people. Most of us just want you to be decent humans who care about other humans. Have non-egotistical principles. But, when you start with a premise that necessitates people use other people, the decency idea dies. That's why we "bitch."

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  51. You're already a fucking billionaire what more god damn treat do you need to spread that wealth you're hoarding?

    More money? Jesus fucking Christ you people are unbelievable.

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  52. Every penny you've made was because the working class at the bottom either labored for you or purchased a product from a company you owned. The incentive is to pay those folks back. You show some damn gratitude for a country & people that gave you those luxuries while they still toil to stay ahead.

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  53. Corporate tax breaks are far too easy to gamify. There’s a reason carbon tax breaks did nothing for the environment.

    People need to learn that the function of government IS to give handouts. We don’t need to incentivize corporate programs, we need to liquidate billionaires and fund social programs

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  54. You have companies making millions, hundreds of millions, or billions in net profit. You're worth how much? I can't even fathom a 6 figure salary as an accountant. Corporations don't need these tax cuts. Small businesses & individuals that struggle to make ends meet need it to survive.

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  55. Lol yeah sure it's the lack of tax break that's preventing you from providing housing to the unhoused, giving food to the food insecure, securing abortion access, funding vaccine research, addressing climate change...

    Sure. That's what it is.

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  56. I love how the wealthy keep telling us they’ll do the “right thing”, but only under certain, self-serving conditions…

    Mark, you said “…pigs get fat but hogs get slaughtered” regarding out of touch, greedy billionaires in the NFL?

    Maybe it should apply to ALL out of touch billionaires…

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  57. Pitchforks and torches are the traditional cure for income disparities.

    How about we hold up pictures of the French Revolution and inquire if you'd like to reconsider what would incent you?

    Note: We could also set the top tax rate back to 90%. That would work too.

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  58. We get it, the other billionaires you're still hanging out with are donating to Republicans and your dinner parties arent as fun anymore

    But these guys saying "if they only did 1 thing, THEN i'd do what's ethically right" is like saying "i WOULD do the dishes if she'd ask just slightly differently"

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  59. If being a decent human being isn't enough incentive, I don't know what to tell you. Just...be better.

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  60. Incentivize you? What, creating a foundation where you could become an ungrateful billionaire isn't enough incentive? Having a stable democracy with a thriving economy not enough for you? Seriously, go fuck yourself and your 1925-styled, depression-making, greedy bullshit.

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  61. We've been lowering corp taxes for decades. It hasn't seemed to help much (other than your bank accounts).

    Maybe time for a new strategy?

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  62. Oh wow, it's so weird that you would lie about policies that purely benefit you.

    No one with more than five brain cells is stupid enough to fall for trickle down, Mark Cuban.

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  63. I really like this idea. I would further incentivize corporations to base executive salaries on the mean salaries of non-executive employees.

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  64. In all fairness, do you really think republicans would agree to helping the working class. This isn’t about helping private businesses or working people, it’s about filling their pockets with that money you’re talking about. The good of the whole isn’t a republican value.

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  65. Why is it so hard for the uber wealthy to have an actual impulse to help someone without being paid to do so? Why is the first impulse to ask what's in it for me? Couldn't you just help someone because they needed your help?

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  66. I feel like this is not going to land the way you think it is. It’s a bad take.

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  67. We'll tax you and direct your obscene wealth towards the betterment of society. And you can take the millions more than anyone could spend in a lifetime that you have left and go fuck off and cry about it. You aren't a resource, you're a hoarder.

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  68. Go fuck yourself, Mark. New you were shit when you were whining about Lina Khan during Harris' campaign, you whiny little baby.

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  69. Maybe Mark you should incentivize workers by paying them living wages with full time employment and benefits. You are already a billionaire, you don't need any more monetary incentives. The feeling of good you get for doing the right thing should be enough.

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  70. ”Want to use me to your advantage? Give me more money.”

    It is the mostly unmentioned “trickle” up part of rich people public governance.

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  71. After Biden’s infrastructure bills, his investment in green energy, reduction in drug prices, Harris’s concrete plans on homebuyer credits and education debt relief, vs. Trump just lying on everything he said he will do, your take away is “Democrats just bitch”.

    You’re giving Trump cover with this🤦🏻‍♂️

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  72. This mindset is psychotic. You have the money and power to help people, but you actively choose not to. Good people don’t need incentives to do the right thing.

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  73. The last 50 years has been this exact concept of giving tax cuts will incentivize businesses to behave morally towards their customers and employees and it has born exactly zero fruit as a concept. Layoffs followed by stock buybacks, higher wages followed by layoffs, coporate tax breaks....layoffs.

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  74. You, Mark Cuban, are even more of a POS example of everything wrong with the world today than I had imagined.

    Your narcissism knows no bounds.

    Wanna buy my crypto?

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  75. Why dont we try a committed campaign to make billionaires not exist? Im for either an angry mob tearing yall limb from limb or a voluntary reduction of wealth. You choose of you need to look out for the next Luigi everywhere you go. May no billionaires eat without spit in their food.

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  76. Sounds like you’re the one bitching here. You’re such the me person. How can it benefit me Mr. Billionaire otherwise I’m not going to do anything that benefits everyone else. You’re very out of touch.

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  77. Since 2000, usual weekly wages have risen 3% (in real terms) among workers in the lowest tenth and 4.3% among the lowest quarter. Real wages have risen a cumulative 15.7% for the top tenth to $2,112 a week – nearly five times the usual weekly earnings of the bottom tenth ($426)

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