The raw milk people are hilarious. All you have to do is meet one (1) cow and smell the situation in which they are producing that rawness and you will pasteurize everything you own for a week
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My highschool used to have a dairy farm next to it and the smell... Unbearable.
Cows are cool, but yeah I'd never drink raw milk.
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These raw milk people have been fed longstanding ideals of Heidi and The Yearling. Some other sanitized version of farming and the herding of cows for milking: saturday morning Lil Rascals; Bugs Bunny; The Rifle Man. They have no analytical or critical thinking skills, or objective knowledge. ๐คท๐ปโโ๏ธ
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We had 1 cow; dad would wash her udder/nipples before milking her, and he always poured the milk through cheese cloth, then pasteurized it before we drank it. (1970s)
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Seen this first hand and its distressing the amount of actual shit is involved
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Will insurance cover the big hospital bills? Will insurance sue the farm to end raw milk.! 161 degrees for 30 seconds saves lives! Lies are killing kids and elderly!
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Grew up on a farm. Not only did we heat our milk for over a half hour before consumption, we even boiled the jars we put it in afterwards because raw milk is nasty.
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I wonder if they would reconsider if they visited a farm and saw just how nasty cows are.
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tbf, to me it's all milk people.
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They have no idea how much feces theyโre consuming. They would be bleaching their mouths for certain if they only knew.๐๐คฃ๐
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Let's consider that dairy cows are almost certainly the most poorly treated animal in a factory farm system and that the cows most people CAN go see are almost certainly cleaner than the cows in an industrial scale dairy operation.
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I see people say "the problem is factory farming, not raw milk. you have to get it from small family dairies". As someone involved in farm animal rescue who grew up in rural dairy country in Vermont: small dairies are not automatically cleaner or more humane than factory farms. Many are much worse.
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Just yesterday I passed a dairy farm here in Wisconsin, and the cows were packed in together so tightly each individual had just maybe a foot or two of wiggle room to move around in. Somehow this is considered acceptable and totally humane.
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Always makes me think of that Flannery OโConnor short story The Enduring Chill where the guy gets undulant fever from obstinately drinking unpasteurized milk
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I went to a cider-pressing party in my city neighborhood, with people's donated garden fruit. It was fun, and I pasteurized the apple juice when I got home! (Hosts had a lot of dogs). Grew up in farm country, dated a hog farmer, frequent fair goer, raised city chickens.
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Luckily, we mammals have zero need to steal the milk of others.
No other mammal does it.
Animal milk is not good for usโand itโs an environmental catastrophe.
#GetWeaned #milk #dairy #DitchDairy #DairyFree #MilkHurts #leche #lรกcteos #latte #latticini #GoVegan #NonViolence #NotYourMomNotYourMilk
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The dumbing down of Americans is due to the arrival of Trump.
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In the current version of โAll Creatures Great and Smallโ they address the question of โshould we test cows for TB since it can transmit to humans through their milk?โ. So Iโm going to stick with pasteurized milk, thanks. Thatโs not the only deadly disease you can get from raw milk!
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Girl you didnโt have to drag them ๐ซถ๐ผ
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And they are never cleaned.
There is a bar that makes a big circle along the bottom of the stalls and its only purpose is to push shit into a pile. I asked if they ever do a deep clean and the farmer said "We could spend a week scrubbing this place down and it would be just as dirty within hours"
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Oh, you've been to Wisconsin...
And you are so right on this. Farmers have to wash the udders before milking. But having seen cows from all angles, I don't think they can ever be clean enough.
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I grew up on a dairy farm, and know the anatomy of cows quite well. I would never drink unpasteurized milk. Check a picture of a cow...
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Show me a raw milk fan and Iโll show you someone who has never seen a farm.
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I drank raw milk as a child.
My grandpa milked the cow and the โsanitationโ process consisted of straining the pail full of milk through a tea towel.
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Used to drink raw goat's milk for years but I milked them myself ( I was goat sitting for only a few) and understood the process. Wouldn't now because of bird flu.
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Let them go in peace. The cows will survive.
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Cows are smelly-- I was a little sad to go to a dairy recently and see they had that in their case. My friend used to have milk cows and ridiculed the idea of 'fresh milk.' Dairy farmers never want that. He let us taste it. Didn't know about the danger. He drank pasteurized. Cows were sweet though!
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My dad has fond memories of going to the farm with his friends as a kid to get milk fresh from the cow. After telling us this he was like "that was so nasty, it's a miracle none of us died."
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Pasteurized, hell; irradiate!
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It's like, tell me you've never been to a dairy farm without telling me you've never been to a dairy farm.
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I was a farm boy around 14yo. Cows smells big time. This helped me to stop biting my nails.
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One of the downsides to modern society is that we protect stupid people too much. If the anti-vaxers/raw milk enthusiasts want to remove themselves and their families from the gene pool, then let them do it.
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Facts says a farmerโs granddaughter ๐๐
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And to be perfectly honest, the ladies deserve a thousand times better than to be subjected to much. These are no longer farms.
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Hell I milked a goat in a relatively clean and nice farm situation where it was basically a pet, pasteurized milk only omg what is wrong with those people omg
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I went to a cute highland cow farm where they let you pet the baby cows
The farmer was like
Idk what to do w all their shit I can sell it but while I arrange that itโs ok this shit mountain the cows are walking in
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Raw milkshakes bring this boy to the yard. ๐ณ
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Or not. Drink your raw milk and weโll pretend to miss your dumb asses.
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๐ฏ oh my godโฆbeen thereโฆtotally agree
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There must be a reason lactose intolerance is the normal state of affairs for humans.
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There are many zoonotic diseases that are transmitted directly from cattle to humans.
Milk is blended into a huge batch from thousands of cows.
Milk is a perfect environment for bacteria to grow.
The probability of one of these cows having a transmissible disease is pretty darned high.
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Yeah, I really need to build up my immunity to e-coli ๐ send it RFKjr's way.
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I had the fortune, to lived by a small (20+) dairy farm, where we could get raw, cooled milk. But I would prefer any pasteurized milk over raw milk in the US because of the sheer size of those 10-20.000 cows dairy farms.
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They are vile people who rarely shower, I know the type. Working in stables shoveling shit.
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Lovely. Milky Milky. Maybe we send Mr Strange instead? www.youtube.com/watch?v=-3x9...
Mr Strange (Milky Milky) Compilation
YouTube video by hatassa
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I think they just need to drink raw milk for a day and like, near instantly contract a dangerous disease. The guy who celebrated getting it legalised drank raw milk on stage and then had to be wheeled to a hospital afterwards.
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These are the same people that think that trad wife living is a goal for women.
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My friend once brought me to his uncleโs dairy farm and we went into the cow barn where they were milking them and what they donโt prepare you for is that there are trenches running under the rows of cows into which flows rivers of cow piss and shit. The smell was so bad that I literally screamed
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My dad milked cows for quite a few years while I was young, andโฆ the state of his bootsโฆ. Whoooeeeeeโฆ.
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I used to ride my bike on a trail that went past a small family-owned dairy (that at least back then pasteurized its milk). I couldnt breathe if the wind was blowing from the cows. ๐คข
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The milkhole is downstream of the butthole, and those gals donโt wipe.
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Sickest I ever got was after drinking raw milk on an Idaho dairy farm. As a kid. Before I realized most Mormons were bad people and all of them bad farmers.
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If weโre going to bring dead people back with AI, maybe we should start with the people who died from lack of pasteurization and vaccines.
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My city (Miami) has had 21 people get sick from raw milk this week. Ask me how many I feel sorry for. (Ok, itโs the kids. Because their parents suck.)
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www.timesunion.com/news/article...
Raw milk sickens 21 people in Florida including 6 children
Public health officials in Florida are reporting 21 cases of campylobacter and E. coli infections linked to drinking raw milk, all from the same farm. As of Monday, six children under the age of 10...
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as someone who has worked milking cows you are 1,000% correct.
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If they want raw milk it should have to be unfiltered too.
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I maintain that making every American work one (1) day in a slaughterhouse would be enough to cut meat consumption in this country in half.
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As someone who grew up in a rural area (in WI!) & has absolutely drank from the bulk tank - pasteurize your damn milk
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21 sick here due to it ๐คฆโโ๏ธ๐คทโโ๏ธ
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As someone who grew up next to Amish farms, I wholeheartedly agree.
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Used to live near a small dairy. Used to go buy fresh milk, butter, & cheese all the time.
ALL OF IT WAS ULTRA PASTEURIZED!
Driving up their driveway, you could see the lakes of manure pits, & ofc smell it from miles away
It was only 30 cows. And like 30 acres of lake!
Raw? It's a BIG NOPE!!
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Agree. However, raw milk consumption is possible if you buy it from a local producer, with a few animals, and they are licensed & inspected. Also, raw goats milk is better than cows & tends to be safer. Large operations with lots of animals, living in poop, will not work out well,
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I live on a dairy farm (tenant, not farmer). You can not touch your car door without sanitising them afterwards. This is because you drive thru shit to get on/off the property. 35% of the heifers are lame which mean they lay down in their own shit (udders all over that floor). They are not washed.
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I honestly like cows and have cousins with cows and other livestock, and Iโve spent time with and taken care of said cows.
I still felt like pasteurize my whole body every time I had to do anything with those dopey, friendly, stinky ass cows.
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I say let the Raw Milkers drink their fill! Then give whatโs left to the Flat Earthers!!
Turd Immunityโฆ
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Itโs amazing to me that these folks seem to think that 150 years ago, people were healthier because they lived off the land.
Not realizing that everything was fucking filthy people didnโt bathe daily. There were lice, rotten teeth, scabs, and all kinds of shit. The good days right ?
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Raw milk people are perfect end results of being so far removed from the source of food production. I was a farm kid raised on milk and meat straight from the tap. My result was to become a vegetarian who hasn't drank milk in years.
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The funniest thing I learned recently is that pretty much every raw milk recipe starts with "boil the milk".
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When I was a child we spent our holidays at my aunt's farm. We always drank milk directly off the cow there. My father did that as a child, too. Nothing happened so far.
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The only milk I regularly drink is the ultra high temperature pasteurized milk from Costco. An 8 oz aseptic package is enough for a nice bowl of cereal.
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Hahahahahaha. So true!!!!
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They not only drink the poo poo water but theyโll smirk to themselves and call you an unhealthy sheep who doesnโt know anything while they drink the poo poo water
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Right!? Humans shouldnโt be drinking cowโs milk AT ALL! ๐คฆ๐ปโโ๏ธ
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I had a warning on my phone the other day that was like "People in your area have consumed this product and are sick now" and I read further and saw that it was raw milk. Just like, yeah... it's raw milk. That makes sense that people are sick after consuming it.
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I kept horses at a ranch in high school. Dirt actually does hurt, especially farm dirt with animals, and you should definitely avoid it around your food.
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No kidding especially the nasty ones in feed lots
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Dairy farms are filthy.
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Let the raw milk folks guzzle all of it they want. Darwin.
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I had raw milk once as s child and it tasted like the barn it came from ๐คข
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I grew up on a literal dairy farm, and I can not endorse this enough!
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gonna have to get olโ beaky out again
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Gosh, I just learned from John Greenโs Everything is Tuberculosis that TB was transmitted from unpasteurized cow milk to childrenโฆ infecting their BONES (since TB is a bacteria, not a virus, it just goes wherever it wants).
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I donโt know how it is in other states, but in FL the raw milk sold by stores literally has a big sticker on it that states โnot safe for human consumptionโ.
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Or more likely quit drinking milk altogether.
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I mean, cow milk is so easily contaminated by cow poop precisely because calves need to get their startup population of symbiotic gut bacteria so they can be weaned onto grass and not starve. Humans, however, do not benefit from cow poop bacteria.
It's insane people don't get this in 2025.
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I'm a grocery manager and I won't even drink other milk out of a case that has raw milk in it.
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Let them drink the raw milk, it's natural selection ๐คฃ
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It's not cow poop that makes raw milk dangerous. It's poor animal husbandry that does that. In an industry where cutting corners makes money you'd want to know the farmer really well before you drink his milk raw. It does taste better raw but is it worth the risk?
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Way back somebody put a glass window to see inside of one of a cow's stomachs. (They have two). I am not making this up. youtu.be/b7TY9t0VBxU?...
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I donโt even drink cow milk anymore. Oat milk for me. I do eat cheese. Do not take that away from me please - that is about 90% of the protein I ingest. (The other 10% is bacon).
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When I lived in Pennsylvania, I lived on a dairy farm. The stench was horrible and the conditions were worse. Let them drink their raw milk; when they canโt afford health care because ๐ต๐๐ฅ๐ฎ took away their Medicaid, they will be most unhappy! Thoughts and prayers, muthafuckahs!
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The raw milk people seem to think we started pasteurizing milk for no real reason, or just for evil's sake.
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The way I explained it to a co-worker is that if you have a cow and you milk it and you just immediately drink it, it's probably fine. But if you do not know the cow by name, don't drink raw milk from it.
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Raw milk is okay if you heat it up to kill the bacteria. /s
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Oat milk is the way
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Cows are nasty.
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I know that shit smells loud in the worst way
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I grew up in the town that had the largest dairy in the US. Cows outnumbered people at least 10:1. I used to joke that you could smell the county before you saw it.
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Lol! Hand them a bucket and a stool to sit on while they milk that beast for themselves. Canโt get more raw than that, and a lot less sanitary.
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I'm fine with Darwin sorting these people out.
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I went to a dairy in MN that had a carousel set up for milling cows. It was really interesting and pretty gross because the cows shit a lot while being milked and guys just spray it down through the grated floor.
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It had always baffled me that people donโt seem to understand that the utters are low and almost in the muck. And it is muck.
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www.cbsnews.com/amp/news/flo...
Florida officials warn about risks of drinking raw milk after 21 people sickened
Florida health officials say 21 people, including six children, were sickened by E. coli and campylobacter bacteria linked to raw milk, and seven were hospitalized.
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My older brother milked our house cow when I was under 10
I churned butter so I could watch tv
No idea if mum boiled it before we drank it cold. Probably. She and dad were diligent farmers
I am not quite 60. Not that long ago
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It's so disgusting, like give me that good bean or nut milk. Almonds don't shit all over themselves. Soy beans aren't horrifically abused. No one is forcefully impregnating coconuts and ripping their babies away to get that milk. Plant milk all day every day.
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I'm just a nerd who knows enough science and history to know why pasteurization was invented in the first place.
And no, it wasn't some evil conspiracy to deprive hippies of a wholesome organic experience and mystical pseudo-nutrients.
Milk fever killed thousands!
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Maybe we should start calling it โshit milk.โ Accurate and unappealing.
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I am a huge fan of pasteurization and indoor plumbing. Yay for shit removal!
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I wonder how many of these raw milkers have ever seen a cow in real life?
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We might all have to switch to soy milk, anyway. All the (wet, cold, dangerous) physical labor in dairy farms in Upstate NY is done by Latino immigrants currently being kidnapped/terrorized by ICE.
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I raise beef cattle, grew up at the dairy farm next door. Buy all milk at the grocery store. Not a chance.
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I said as much on TT (I live in an area full of dairy farms so I see them daily) and some guy was like, โMaybe the farmers should wash the cows more often.โ I didnโt have the heart to explain how that is not as feasible as he thinks it is.
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But in the good old days people are natural food and lived to the ripe old age of famine.
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Yeah, having milked cows I can assure you that I'll never drink raw milk.
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Like Sarah Taber said: it's udder is halfway between its asshole and the ground.
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Shhhh, donโt discourage them
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Or better yet stop consuming dairy entirely
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Can't wait for a tradwife type to start with, "I don't believe in pasteurization, but to keep my children safe, I just boil it at home."
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SO TRUE. Growing up my mom tried to poison us with raw milk. Later I married a microbiology professor to show her what's what. Some of us are smarter than our parents. Moo. (Also don't touch any dairy now lol)
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Some ivermectin and a few leaches will get the humors balanced in a fortnight.
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My first job was milking cows and a couple times someone showed up and asked the farmer if they could buy raw milk. He was absolutely baffled as to why they would want that.
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I grew up in South Jersey, which, believe it or not, still has farms... including dairy farms.
They had stores with fresh product.
After recitals, I got to pick up ice cream from said stores.
Even the stores smelled.
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I did sample raw milk at a family dairy in Switzerland to no ill effects, but you could have had a picnic in that barn. With factory farming in America-pasteurize!
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Friend of mine became a dairy farm auditor in Wisconsin (for cheese making). Before the end of his first week he had turned vegan.
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RFK, Donald and the gang eat McDonalds.
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21 people were sickened by Raw Milk in Florida
www.cbsnews.com/news/florida...
Florida officials warn about risks of drinking raw milk after 21 people sickened
Florida health officials say 21 people, including six children, were sickened by E. coli and campylobacter bacteria linked to raw milk, and seven were hospitalized.
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When drinking raw milk, remember you're also drinking 3 Ps: piss, pus, and poo
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I think it was @sarahtaber.bsky.social that pointed out the fundamental problem with cows. Unlike in humans, the boobs are in between the butt and the ground.
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I visited the most pristine possible small family dairy - my kiddo loves the farmer and her ice cream. As she showed off the milking "robot" the cow (grass fed, happy) took a dung covered hoof and kicked off the milker. It reattached and kept going without rewashing the teat. Pasteurization FOREVER!
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If you've ever driven through California's central valley, you can smell Cowschwitz from miles away.
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In modern dairy farming, cows are literally forced to lie down in their own shit, & their teats are contaminated in their own e-coli bacteria. You would have to be insane to drink their non-Pasteurised milk.
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Enough to push me vegan
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seeing stories out of FL about illnesses... and honestly finding it pretty funny, since these folks aren't just shooting themselves in the foot by drinking raw milk, they're shooting themselves in the foot against medical advice
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Let them. Theyโll pay the price.
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Just go vegan already! What are you waiting for? Armageddonโฆ
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One cowโhowever smellyโisnโt the problem. Commingling the product of 100s and 1,000s of cows in one glassโฆnow thatโs dicey.
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Same with the people who think lab-grown meat is gross on principle because it comes from a lab...instead of from a slaughterhouse, and before that from an animal walking around with 20 gallons of shit inside it.
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Those boots ride home outside the car, for instance. Throw โem on the roof rack.
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MAGA--- But cows are already pasture ized...
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shit, i want to heat myself to 160F whenever i SMELL a farm
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I always wondered if the raw milk people also eat stuff like baby carrots. Or like actual raw vegetables out of the ground. Cause if they are only applying the idea of rawness to milkโฆ. Weird.
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Sister and BIL had a dairy heard and had to follow certain standards to sell milk. They drank raw milk until the herd was sold. They now only drink pasteurized milk. They know what can happen when processing milk isnโt kept safe.
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Raw milk folks generally could not be bothered to visit a farm. Let em drink it at this point, the only way theyโre going to figure it out is if they get sick from it. Including a picture of just the first paragraph on Wikipedia of possible diseases you can get. Have fun with that tuberculous!
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Also the tasteโฆ my cousins have a dairy farm, as a kid when we stayed over, I avoided cereal at all cost. They drank the milk right from the holding tank, still warm. So not just the smell but the taste ๐คข
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Thanks. I needed that laugh. lol
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Damn right! (Sister in law of a dairy farmer). I donโt drink milk.
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You know whatโs great? Stephen Miller and his odious wife are raw milk drinkers.
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Lol. You are correct. It's a stinky messy situation.
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It's so funny that they think they're closer to nature. As a leftist I have been on sheep and cattle farms, I'm now around domestic and wild animals in captivity. It's how they get confused when a guy is hunting with them and are shocked when he says he hates Trump. Republicans think they're rustic.
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People be acting like they do not watch The Hoof GP
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Just thinking logically, do people think an industry which is focused on profit is going to add this huge expense of pasteurizing milk just for the fun of it. They are doing it because they don't want to be sued into oblivion from giving food poisoning to customers or in the worst case death.
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Growing up on the Wisconsin state line means I can smell this skeet.
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Growing up, there was always a bottle of milk straight from the cow on the table, at grandma's (dairy farmer). With a spoon - to get rid of the blood and crud on top. ๐คข
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Of course the people suffering the most are the children of these stubborn, ignorant fucks. Not fair.
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Let the natural selection begin. Those who wouldnโt listen to science will not be swayed by advice from science. I donโt want to help those who refuse to get help. I gave up caring for them. I will just try to help vulnerable people who with no faults of their own got pulled into this hell by MAGAts
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raw milk is the least of Americans problems with all the food safety standards being cut by the government. ๐คฃ
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๐ฅ๐ฅ๐ฅ๐ฅ Thise guys have never been to a dairy farm.
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I grew up on a dairy farm and drank milk straight until we sold out in โ96, but Dad kept hygiene on lockdown. Would never take any straight milk from anyone else.
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Excuuuuuuse me?
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I live next to an Amish farm and trust me, she ainโt lying
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Lived between a dairy, slaughterhouse and a distilleryโฆ I can tell you I always knew which way the wind was blowing
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Smell the situation. ๐ค๐พ
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Also. Work a couple of shifts in a slaughterhouse if you want to become a vegetarian.
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You are an idiot if you drink Raw Milk.
It's anti-science.
Do not let anti-science people into your life.
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Dairy farmers know this.
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My favorite is the threads where they all talk about boiling their raw milk before drinking it.... unironically... just full sending that they're now doing the labor behind pasteurizing milk and paid more to do it without even realizing it
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"Raw Milk- where milk & bovine rim jobs intersect!"
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It's poop. Raw milk is poop soup. I can barely eat standard packaged dairy like yogurt and cheese knowing how much yuck is in unpasteurized dairy. ๐คข Nasty. And I think cheese is delicious and cows are adorable weird creatures who do a great job nursing their calves. But we are not calves. So ๐
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Worked 6 weeks at a cow farm when young. Still milked by hand. Nuff said.
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I love raw milk. A glass full is like a full meal. But I trust the science enough that I haven't had any for several decades. But if they could make it safe I'd be a customer.
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lol, well put
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Listeria, Salmonella, etc. ๐คฎ๐คฎ๐คฎ
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We could tell the raw milk people to eat shit but theyโve already got that covered.
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i vaguely remember a trip to a dairy farm when i was a kid and the only reason i remember it is because they gave us "fresh" (i'm assuming raw) chocolate milk. let me just say...NO. NEVER again. i still feel insulted they tried to pass that off as a treat.
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Used to have to visit my momโs farm in Croatia. The film that forms on it. I would come home and chug my 2% Crystal Light of milk.
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right from the teat. line up, line up