The raw milk people are hilarious. All you have to do is meet one (1) cow and smell the situation in which they are producing that rawness and you will pasteurize everything you own for a week

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  1. These raw milk people have been fed longstanding ideals of Heidi and The Yearling. Some other sanitized version of farming and the herding of cows for milking: saturday morning Lil Rascals; Bugs Bunny; The Rifle Man. They have no analytical or critical thinking skills, or objective knowledge. ๐Ÿคท๐Ÿปโ€โ™‚๏ธ

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  2. Will insurance cover the big hospital bills? Will insurance sue the farm to end raw milk.! 161 degrees for 30 seconds saves lives! Lies are killing kids and elderly!

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  3. Grew up on a farm. Not only did we heat our milk for over a half hour before consumption, we even boiled the jars we put it in afterwards because raw milk is nasty.

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  4. They have no idea how much feces theyโ€™re consuming. They would be bleaching their mouths for certain if they only knew.๐Ÿ˜‚๐Ÿคฃ๐Ÿ˜‚

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  5. Let's consider that dairy cows are almost certainly the most poorly treated animal in a factory farm system and that the cows most people CAN go see are almost certainly cleaner than the cows in an industrial scale dairy operation.

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  6. I see people say "the problem is factory farming, not raw milk. you have to get it from small family dairies". As someone involved in farm animal rescue who grew up in rural dairy country in Vermont: small dairies are not automatically cleaner or more humane than factory farms. Many are much worse.

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  7. Just yesterday I passed a dairy farm here in Wisconsin, and the cows were packed in together so tightly each individual had just maybe a foot or two of wiggle room to move around in. Somehow this is considered acceptable and totally humane.

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  8. I went to a cider-pressing party in my city neighborhood, with people's donated garden fruit. It was fun, and I pasteurized the apple juice when I got home! (Hosts had a lot of dogs). Grew up in farm country, dated a hog farmer, frequent fair goer, raised city chickens.

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  9. Luckily, we mammals have zero need to steal the milk of others.

    No other mammal does it.

    Animal milk is not good for usโ€”and itโ€™s an environmental catastrophe.

    #GetWeaned #milk #dairy #DitchDairy #DairyFree #MilkHurts #leche #lรกcteos #latte #latticini #GoVegan #NonViolence #NotYourMomNotYourMilk

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  10. In the current version of โ€œAll Creatures Great and Smallโ€ they address the question of โ€œshould we test cows for TB since it can transmit to humans through their milk?โ€. So Iโ€™m going to stick with pasteurized milk, thanks. Thatโ€™s not the only deadly disease you can get from raw milk!

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  11. And they are never cleaned.

    There is a bar that makes a big circle along the bottom of the stalls and its only purpose is to push shit into a pile. I asked if they ever do a deep clean and the farmer said "We could spend a week scrubbing this place down and it would be just as dirty within hours"

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  12. I grew up on a dairy farm, and know the anatomy of cows quite well. I would never drink unpasteurized milk. Check a picture of a cow...

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  13. Used to drink raw goat's milk for years but I milked them myself ( I was goat sitting for only a few) and understood the process. Wouldn't now because of bird flu.

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  14. Cows are smelly-- I was a little sad to go to a dairy recently and see they had that in their case. My friend used to have milk cows and ridiculed the idea of 'fresh milk.' Dairy farmers never want that. He let us taste it. Didn't know about the danger. He drank pasteurized. Cows were sweet though!

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  15. My dad has fond memories of going to the farm with his friends as a kid to get milk fresh from the cow. After telling us this he was like "that was so nasty, it's a miracle none of us died."

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  16. One of the downsides to modern society is that we protect stupid people too much. If the anti-vaxers/raw milk enthusiasts want to remove themselves and their families from the gene pool, then let them do it.

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  17. And to be perfectly honest, the ladies deserve a thousand times better than to be subjected to much. These are no longer farms.

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  18. Hell I milked a goat in a relatively clean and nice farm situation where it was basically a pet, pasteurized milk only omg what is wrong with those people omg

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  19. I went to a cute highland cow farm where they let you pet the baby cows

    The farmer was like

    Idk what to do w all their shit I can sell it but while I arrange that itโ€™s ok this shit mountain the cows are walking in

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  20. There are many zoonotic diseases that are transmitted directly from cattle to humans.

    Milk is blended into a huge batch from thousands of cows.

    Milk is a perfect environment for bacteria to grow.

    The probability of one of these cows having a transmissible disease is pretty darned high.

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  21. I had the fortune, to lived by a small (20+) dairy farm, where we could get raw, cooled milk. But I would prefer any pasteurized milk over raw milk in the US because of the sheer size of those 10-20.000 cows dairy farms.

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  22. I think they just need to drink raw milk for a day and like, near instantly contract a dangerous disease. The guy who celebrated getting it legalised drank raw milk on stage and then had to be wheeled to a hospital afterwards.

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  23. My friend once brought me to his uncleโ€™s dairy farm and we went into the cow barn where they were milking them and what they donโ€™t prepare you for is that there are trenches running under the rows of cows into which flows rivers of cow piss and shit. The smell was so bad that I literally screamed

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  24. I used to ride my bike on a trail that went past a small family-owned dairy (that at least back then pasteurized its milk). I couldnt breathe if the wind was blowing from the cows. ๐Ÿคข

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  25. If weโ€™re going to bring dead people back with AI, maybe we should start with the people who died from lack of pasteurization and vaccines.

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  26. My city (Miami) has had 21 people get sick from raw milk this week. Ask me how many I feel sorry for. (Ok, itโ€™s the kids. Because their parents suck.)

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  27. I maintain that making every American work one (1) day in a slaughterhouse would be enough to cut meat consumption in this country in half.

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  28. Used to live near a small dairy. Used to go buy fresh milk, butter, & cheese all the time.

    ALL OF IT WAS ULTRA PASTEURIZED!

    Driving up their driveway, you could see the lakes of manure pits, & ofc smell it from miles away

    It was only 30 cows. And like 30 acres of lake!

    Raw? It's a BIG NOPE!!

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  29. Agree. However, raw milk consumption is possible if you buy it from a local producer, with a few animals, and they are licensed & inspected. Also, raw goats milk is better than cows & tends to be safer. Large operations with lots of animals, living in poop, will not work out well,

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  30. I live on a dairy farm (tenant, not farmer). You can not touch your car door without sanitising them afterwards. This is because you drive thru shit to get on/off the property. 35% of the heifers are lame which mean they lay down in their own shit (udders all over that floor). They are not washed.

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  31. I honestly like cows and have cousins with cows and other livestock, and Iโ€™ve spent time with and taken care of said cows.

    I still felt like pasteurize my whole body every time I had to do anything with those dopey, friendly, stinky ass cows.

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  32. I say let the Raw Milkers drink their fill! Then give whatโ€™s left to the Flat Earthers!!

    Turd Immunityโ€ฆ

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  33. Itโ€™s amazing to me that these folks seem to think that 150 years ago, people were healthier because they lived off the land.

    Not realizing that everything was fucking filthy people didnโ€™t bathe daily. There were lice, rotten teeth, scabs, and all kinds of shit. The good days right ?

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  34. Raw milk people are perfect end results of being so far removed from the source of food production. I was a farm kid raised on milk and meat straight from the tap. My result was to become a vegetarian who hasn't drank milk in years.

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  35. When I was a child we spent our holidays at my aunt's farm. We always drank milk directly off the cow there. My father did that as a child, too. Nothing happened so far.

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  36. The only milk I regularly drink is the ultra high temperature pasteurized milk from Costco. An 8 oz aseptic package is enough for a nice bowl of cereal.

    8 fluid ounce box of Kirkland brand organic whole milk.
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  37. They not only drink the poo poo water but theyโ€™ll smirk to themselves and call you an unhealthy sheep who doesnโ€™t know anything while they drink the poo poo water

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  38. I had a warning on my phone the other day that was like "People in your area have consumed this product and are sick now" and I read further and saw that it was raw milk. Just like, yeah... it's raw milk. That makes sense that people are sick after consuming it.

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  39. Gosh, I just learned from John Greenโ€™s Everything is Tuberculosis that TB was transmitted from unpasteurized cow milk to childrenโ€ฆ infecting their BONES (since TB is a bacteria, not a virus, it just goes wherever it wants).

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  40. I donโ€™t know how it is in other states, but in FL the raw milk sold by stores literally has a big sticker on it that states โ€œnot safe for human consumptionโ€.

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  41. I mean, cow milk is so easily contaminated by cow poop precisely because calves need to get their startup population of symbiotic gut bacteria so they can be weaned onto grass and not starve. Humans, however, do not benefit from cow poop bacteria.

    It's insane people don't get this in 2025.

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  42. It's not cow poop that makes raw milk dangerous. It's poor animal husbandry that does that. In an industry where cutting corners makes money you'd want to know the farmer really well before you drink his milk raw. It does taste better raw but is it worth the risk?

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  43. I donโ€™t even drink cow milk anymore. Oat milk for me. I do eat cheese. Do not take that away from me please - that is about 90% of the protein I ingest. (The other 10% is bacon).

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  44. When I lived in Pennsylvania, I lived on a dairy farm. The stench was horrible and the conditions were worse. Let them drink their raw milk; when they canโ€™t afford health care because ๐Ÿ˜ต๐ŸŠ๐Ÿฅ๐ŸŒฎ took away their Medicaid, they will be most unhappy! Thoughts and prayers, muthafuckahs!

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  45. The way I explained it to a co-worker is that if you have a cow and you milk it and you just immediately drink it, it's probably fine. But if you do not know the cow by name, don't drink raw milk from it.

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  46. I grew up in the town that had the largest dairy in the US. Cows outnumbered people at least 10:1. I used to joke that you could smell the county before you saw it.

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  47. I went to a dairy in MN that had a carousel set up for milling cows. It was really interesting and pretty gross because the cows shit a lot while being milked and guys just spray it down through the grated floor.

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  48. My older brother milked our house cow when I was under 10

    I churned butter so I could watch tv

    No idea if mum boiled it before we drank it cold. Probably. She and dad were diligent farmers

    I am not quite 60. Not that long ago

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  49. It's so disgusting, like give me that good bean or nut milk. Almonds don't shit all over themselves. Soy beans aren't horrifically abused. No one is forcefully impregnating coconuts and ripping their babies away to get that milk. Plant milk all day every day.

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  50. I'm just a nerd who knows enough science and history to know why pasteurization was invented in the first place.

    And no, it wasn't some evil conspiracy to deprive hippies of a wholesome organic experience and mystical pseudo-nutrients.

    Milk fever killed thousands!

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  51. We might all have to switch to soy milk, anyway. All the (wet, cold, dangerous) physical labor in dairy farms in Upstate NY is done by Latino immigrants currently being kidnapped/terrorized by ICE.

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  52. I said as much on TT (I live in an area full of dairy farms so I see them daily) and some guy was like, โ€œMaybe the farmers should wash the cows more often.โ€ I didnโ€™t have the heart to explain how that is not as feasible as he thinks it is.

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  53. Can't wait for a tradwife type to start with, "I don't believe in pasteurization, but to keep my children safe, I just boil it at home."

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  54. My first job was milking cows and a couple times someone showed up and asked the farmer if they could buy raw milk. He was absolutely baffled as to why they would want that.

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  55. I grew up in South Jersey, which, believe it or not, still has farms... including dairy farms.

    They had stores with fresh product.

    After recitals, I got to pick up ice cream from said stores.

    Even the stores smelled.

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  56. I did sample raw milk at a family dairy in Switzerland to no ill effects, but you could have had a picnic in that barn. With factory farming in America-pasteurize!

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  57. I visited the most pristine possible small family dairy - my kiddo loves the farmer and her ice cream. As she showed off the milking "robot" the cow (grass fed, happy) took a dung covered hoof and kicked off the milker. It reattached and kept going without rewashing the teat. Pasteurization FOREVER!

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  58. seeing stories out of FL about illnesses... and honestly finding it pretty funny, since these folks aren't just shooting themselves in the foot by drinking raw milk, they're shooting themselves in the foot against medical advice

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  59. One cowโ€”however smellyโ€”isnโ€™t the problem. Commingling the product of 100s and 1,000s of cows in one glassโ€ฆnow thatโ€™s dicey.

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  60. Same with the people who think lab-grown meat is gross on principle because it comes from a lab...instead of from a slaughterhouse, and before that from an animal walking around with 20 gallons of shit inside it.

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  61. I always wondered if the raw milk people also eat stuff like baby carrots. Or like actual raw vegetables out of the ground. Cause if they are only applying the idea of rawness to milkโ€ฆ. Weird.

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  62. Sister and BIL had a dairy heard and had to follow certain standards to sell milk. They drank raw milk until the herd was sold. They now only drink pasteurized milk. They know what can happen when processing milk isnโ€™t kept safe.

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  63. Raw milk folks generally could not be bothered to visit a farm. Let em drink it at this point, the only way theyโ€™re going to figure it out is if they get sick from it. Including a picture of just the first paragraph on Wikipedia of possible diseases you can get. Have fun with that tuberculous!

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  64. Also the tasteโ€ฆ my cousins have a dairy farm, as a kid when we stayed over, I avoided cereal at all cost. They drank the milk right from the holding tank, still warm. So not just the smell but the taste ๐Ÿคข

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  65. It's so funny that they think they're closer to nature. As a leftist I have been on sheep and cattle farms, I'm now around domestic and wild animals in captivity. It's how they get confused when a guy is hunting with them and are shocked when he says he hates Trump. Republicans think they're rustic.

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  66. Just thinking logically, do people think an industry which is focused on profit is going to add this huge expense of pasteurizing milk just for the fun of it. They are doing it because they don't want to be sued into oblivion from giving food poisoning to customers or in the worst case death.

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  67. Growing up, there was always a bottle of milk straight from the cow on the table, at grandma's (dairy farmer). With a spoon - to get rid of the blood and crud on top. ๐Ÿคข

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  68. Let the natural selection begin. Those who wouldnโ€™t listen to science will not be swayed by advice from science. I donโ€™t want to help those who refuse to get help. I gave up caring for them. I will just try to help vulnerable people who with no faults of their own got pulled into this hell by MAGAts

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  69. raw milk is the least of Americans problems with all the food safety standards being cut by the government. ๐Ÿคฃ

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  70. I grew up on a dairy farm and drank milk straight until we sold out in โ€˜96, but Dad kept hygiene on lockdown. Would never take any straight milk from anyone else.

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    John @johnbull.wtf

    My favorite is the threads where they all talk about boiling their raw milk before drinking it.... unironically... just full sending that they're now doing the labor behind pasteurizing milk and paid more to do it without even realizing it

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  72. It's poop. Raw milk is poop soup. I can barely eat standard packaged dairy like yogurt and cheese knowing how much yuck is in unpasteurized dairy. ๐Ÿคข Nasty. And I think cheese is delicious and cows are adorable weird creatures who do a great job nursing their calves. But we are not calves. So ๐Ÿ™ƒ

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  73. i vaguely remember a trip to a dairy farm when i was a kid and the only reason i remember it is because they gave us "fresh" (i'm assuming raw) chocolate milk. let me just say...NO. NEVER again. i still feel insulted they tried to pass that off as a treat.

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  74. Used to have to visit my momโ€™s farm in Croatia. The film that forms on it. I would come home and chug my 2% Crystal Light of milk.

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